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Talking stocks, trading, and investing in general

Discussion in 'Business, Careers & Education' started by mikeman, Feb 2, 2011.

  1. djblisk

    djblisk Senior member

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    My dumbass sold VHT at 111. I think its at 116 now.

    Just got a bonus from employer, now where to invest it.
     


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    Biotech? :satisfied:
     


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    TWTR is on this continuous march upward. This was my speculative play, only $2k in. Should've bought more, but thankfully I didn't sell when it hit new high last month. Let it ride!
     


  4. amerikajinda

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    Nice little 4%+ intraday pop on my MGNX and OREX :slayer:

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  5. djblisk

    djblisk Senior member

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    I saw that. Thinking of getting in.
     


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    I wouldn't. I'm dying to break even just to get out of the trade. The platform sucks.
     


  7. GreenFrog

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    avoid TWTR like the plague. Facebook left them in the dust quarters ago. It's too late for them to catch up without dramatically overhauling their platform, which could actually be a good thing, since their platform sucks for the casual / new user.
     
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  8. djblisk

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    Thanks for the advice guys.
     


  9. guyver00

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    This reminds me of this quote:

    "One of the funny things about the stock market is that every time one person buys, another sells, and both think they are astute." - William Feather

    I see it differently, the platform may suck, but it's a popularity contest. Celebrities are using Twitter to broadcast their dull and sometimes narcissistic thoughts, while companies use it to engage customers. I think there is still some growth left.
     


  10. GreenFrog

    GreenFrog Senior member

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    In response to your quote, of course.

    I won't touch TWTR until they show a second, consecutive earnings beat. Latest results were positive, but I want to see that continue next quarter; then I might jump in.

    Otherwise, no bueno.
     


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    Buy it then as it is your money. That stock is more of a gamble than a solid investment decision. Holding it through earnings is like flipping a coin.
     


  12. idfnl

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    This kind of thinking is a solid way to lose money. 2 earnings beats is like a guy that has 2 good games in the NBA deserving a contract.

    Second fallacy is waiting for the news to invest. Getting in after the move is a nice way to spend 2 quarters watching the stock move sideways. If you believe in it, you get in early.
     


  13. GreenFrog

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    False. Consecutive earnings beats from a company that has only been a disappointment to date instills greater confidence that they may be on a turnaround trajectory.

    The same exact thing happened to FB. Stock got hammered, but they began to show early signs of growth in mobile ad revenue beginning late 2012 - early 2013. If you got in at the beginning signs of their turnaround strategy, you'd be a very happy man right now.

    For me and TWTR, believing in it means seeing consecutive earnings beats with a solid, well-articulated mobile strategy by management and getting in early means getting in at the beginning signs of their turnaround.
     
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    I don't get your logic. If they beat again, you'll miss the move. What's the value in getting in after the beat for a 10% move? I'd rather own a non-cyc with a 4% dividend. If you're playing the growth story, you are already late to it, this is not a safety zone play. Sure, it might move 40% in a year, but it might also dive 40%. Look at its crazy valuation, its priced for absolute perfection, which it has little hope of delivering.
     
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  15. GreenFrog

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    How does this not make sense to you? It's fairly simple: if it shows signs of growth, then get in. It's as simple as that. I'm not talking about gambling on the earnings game. I wouldn't care about missing that specific pop. I'd be banking on the following quarters popping as well. The first two earnings beats would just act as positive catalysts to get me into buying the stock.
     
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