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Tailor "would not" implement functional buttons

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Suitcase Living, Nov 19, 2012.

  1. Godot

    Godot Senior member

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    I have two new Calvin Klein all wool suits that fit very well that came with plastic buttons. I know I'm a Philistine, but I like the suits. Anyway I got some replacement bone buttons from Tender Buttons. I know a women that's a tailor and she said she could change the buttons without a problem. I then asked if she could make the cuff buttons functional and she said piece of cake-get it back to you in two days. She called about 3 days later and told me that she would have to to the buttons by hand because she didn't have the correct machine. No problem on my end if she could do it. Well it's been two weeks and should get them by the end of this week. Anytime I've ever had anything done by hand it's always taken longer than anticipated.Once waited six months for a Kydex knife sheath that should have taken 15 minutes so I'm not worried. I'm cautiously optimistic and will post pics when / if I get them back. :)
     
  2. David Reeves

    David Reeves Senior member Affiliate Vendor

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    A machine buttonhole machine is a very expensive item so a small tailor wouldn't normally have it. He may not have the time, skill or inclination to make you functioning buttonholes by hand. Even if they were done by hand they would not match the rest of the buttonholes on the suit very well and this would drive me bonkers.
     
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  3. teddieriley

    teddieriley Senior member

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    Wait, you smell that?


    What a lot of rambling.
     
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  4. Suitcase Living

    Suitcase Living Member

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    Wow sorry for kicking off a flame war, next time I will begin with something less provactive than button holes.[​IMG]
    Thanks I'll message jesse.
     
  5. JLibourel

    JLibourel Senior member

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    Not me. I strive to pass my days in humility and meekness, inspired by the example of Our Savior, Jesus Christ.
     
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  6. chogall

    chogall Senior member

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    there's a button hole porn threak. and other holes might end up at dumb threads.
     
  7. eHaberdasher

    eHaberdasher Senior member Affiliate Vendor

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    In general the sleeves must be made to allow for functional sleeve buttons, which the Benjamin suits do have. The basting threads on the sleeves are not decoration - they are basted because the sleeves are truly vented and can accommodate functional sleeve buttons. We find this to be extremely practical for several reasons:

    1. The wearer can opt to have functional sleeve buttons (obviously)
    2. It is often easier for the tailor, as most of the time sleeves need to be adjusted (shortened or lengthened), and buttons would have to come off anyway.
    3. Fake sleeve buttonholes are a pain (and often accompany most OTR suits) as they actually create MORE work for the tailor if the sleeve length need to be adjusted. There is also the risk of damaging the fabric when attempting to undo the faux buttonholes.
     
  8. FlyingMonkey

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    Quite. I can only think that the OP has been led to believe by Esquire and GQ that this is a simple operation that any tailor can do (and would want to do).

    And I know that the #menswear press would have people believe that surgeon cuffs are an essential for differentiating oneself from less well-dressed people, but it's really not the case. I'm not even sure I see the point in them if one is getting suits or coats made from scratch. It's not as if I am ever going to undo them. So the last time I had a suit made, I didn't bother. And you know what? No-one notices, not even me.
     
  9. Bounder

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    The key point that seems to be getting lost is that you should never buy a RTW jacket that already has "functional" button holes thinking that the sleeve length can be adjusted. The only way to do it properly is to adjust the sleeve length from the shoulder which is hugely expensive and potentially risky.

    Don't ask me how I know. It's still all too painful.
     
  10. johnvw

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    Not me. I strive to pass my days in humility and meekness, inspired by the example of Our Savior, Jesus Christ.[/quote

    Please permit a(nother) comment off-topic of the thread: If JL's comment is sincere, all the best with that. That is how it should be.
     
  11. johnvw

    johnvw Senior member

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    OP: Is this helpful?
     
  12. jeff13007

    jeff13007 Senior member

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    Ive read they changed from Brioni to Tom Ford at Daniel Craig's request, just like Brioni before them i don't think there was a bidding war for his suits
     
  13. yywwyy

    yywwyy Senior member

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    ^ +1 That's what I've heard too. I heard Craig and Ford are somewhat friends, too.
     
  14. VinnyMac

    VinnyMac Senior member

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    ...this ^^^^ (minus the last part)

    See below
    ...for "stuntin'" on fools.
     
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  15. Godot

    Godot Senior member

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    LOL You must cringe a lot. The Bond people have been selling product placement for years. Every close up shot of the watch face, costs money and there have been a lot of watches over the years.

    http://www.livescience.com/24957-james-bond-product-placement.html

    BOT I'm surprised at the amount of passion this subject is generating. Something can be done or not. We got to the moon, so I'm guessing this is within someone's grasp. At any rate, I'm not going to lose any sleep over what kind of buttons another guy has. If another guy chooses to have no buttons, I can live with it with total tolerance. In this matter, the Dali Lama will envy my tolerance. :)
     
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