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Sustainable Menswear?

Phileas Fogg

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Oh for Gods sake! Fucking sustainable?

Cotton is a crop. Sustainable.
Wool/cashmere? Sustainable.
Leather? From cows. Sustainable and given the recent fetish regarding cow farts and global warming, I’d say buy more leather.
Silk? Pretty sustainable last I checked.

I’d argue 90% of clothing is made up of these such things.

What’s not sustainable, the labor used in sweat shops and Chinese concentration and prison camps to produce this stuff.
 

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Oh for Gods sake! Fucking sustainable?

Cotton is a crop. Sustainable.
Wool/cashmere? Sustainable.
Leather? From cows. Sustainable and given the recent fetish regarding cow farts and global warming, I’d say buy more leather.
Silk? Pretty sustainable last I checked.

I’d argue 90% of clothing is made up of these such things.
Are you aware of the environmental impacts of over-farming? Mongolia has gone through a desertification process because of the overfarming of cashmere. Can go on for each of the crops and materials you listed.
 

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How exactly does cashmere turn grasslands into desert?
 

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How exactly does cashmere turn grasslands into desert?
 

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Only after you edited it. Be quicker next time.
I think maybe you've had too much to drink or something.

Anyway, I think that's it from me for a while.
 

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I could not disagree more with this phrasing. Pedantic, perhaps, but it should read "don't buy something just because it's on sale."

If you are planning on buying a new sofa from Blu Dot and you know that Blu Dot marks down its entire collection by 20% for the month of October — its only sale of the year — why the heck would you buy your sofa in September if you could wait?
Right, but psychologically people often have troubles differentiating between the two. I think people often trick themselves into thinking that they would buy something on sale even when that is not the case.
 

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Oh for Gods sake! Fucking sustainable?

Cotton is a crop. Sustainable.
Wool/cashmere? Sustainable.
Leather? From cows. Sustainable and given the recent fetish regarding cow farts and global warming, I’d say buy more leather.
Silk? Pretty sustainable last I checked.

I’d argue 90% of clothing is made up of these such things.

What’s not sustainable, the labor used in sweat shops and Chinese concentration and prison camps to produce this stuff.
Um...the fact that something is a crop doesn't mean that it is sustainable.
 

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Oh for Gods sake! Fucking sustainable?

Cotton is a crop. Sustainable.
Wool/cashmere? Sustainable.
Leather? From cows. Sustainable and given the recent fetish regarding cow farts and global warming, I’d say buy more leather.
Silk? Pretty sustainable last I checked.

I’d argue 90% of clothing is made up of these such things.

What’s not sustainable, the labor used in sweat shops and Chinese concentration and prison camps to produce this stuff.
It is quite weird to hear companies that talk about sustainability and simultaneously make all their clothes in China.
 

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It is quite weird to hear companies that talk about sustainability and simultaneously make all their clothes in China.
That's often a separate moral issue, and one that isn't as straightforward as it seems.

Quite sober. I quoted full your post....
Why does this matter? Regardless of what he wrote in his original post, you both agree on this. Furthermore, Derek has written on this before. It is not as if you made an original point and he stole it from you. This all seems very petty to me.
 

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That's often a separate moral issue, and one that isn't as straightforward as it seems.
I agree, and I also agree with the rest of your previous post. A lot of what's sustainable comes down to the choices we make for purchases: buying better quality, not spending frivolously, etc.
 

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Fascinating stuff. Thanks.
 

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