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Suspenders with belt loops

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by KObalto, Aug 28, 2008.

  1. KObalto

    KObalto Senior member

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    I've found that I much prefer to wear suspenders with my suits rather than belts. I know that Flusser and some others say it is an unpardonable sin to wear suspenders on pants with belt loops, but is this still true today when most suit pants come with belt loops standard? Don't a lot of Incotex come with suspender buttons and belt loops? What do people here think about this? TIA.
     
  2. lee_44106

    lee_44106 Senior member

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    I agree with a lot of things Flusser says, but this is not one of them.

    Keep wearing suspenders/braces with belt loops, I do.
     
  3. RatherAnOddball

    RatherAnOddball Senior member

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    It's easy enough to get them removed, if you care to bother. I wear braces also, and whenever I have my trousers hemmed/cuffed (and tipped, about .5") I just tell the tailor to add suspender-buttons and to lop off the belt loops - but save them, so I can always have them put back on if my tastes change.

    Goodluck.
     
  4. eHaberdasher

    eHaberdasher Senior member Affiliate Vendor

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    I agree with a lot of things Flusser says, but this is not one of them.

    Keep wearing suspenders/braces with belt loops, I do.


    +1. Not a big deal to have both buttons and belt loops - in this case it's ok to swing both ways in my book.
     
  5. porcelain monkey

    porcelain monkey Senior member

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    +1. Not a big deal to have both buttons and belt loops - in this case it's ok to swing both ways in my book.

    No problem at all. Just don't wear a belt and suspenders (or braces to be a bit more pedantic).
     
  6. eHaberdasher

    eHaberdasher Senior member Affiliate Vendor

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    No problem at all. Just don't wear a belt and suspenders (or braces to be a bit more pedantic).

    Indeed - wearing both belt and braces is one of the few unforgivable fashion crimes!
     
  7. Golf_Nerd

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    It's easy enough to get them removed, if you care to bother. I wear braces also, and whenever I have my trousers hemmed/cuffed (and tipped, about .5") I just tell the tailor to add suspender-buttons and to lop off the belt loops - but save them, so I can always have them put back on if my tastes change.

    Goodluck.


    +1

    Good idea. Thanks!
     
  8. Orsini

    Orsini Senior member

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    ...(and tipped, about .5")...
    Tipped? What it that? Is that guardsman slant?
     
  9. Orsini

    Orsini Senior member

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    ...suspenders...with belt loops...
    ..looks dreadful.
     
  10. RatherAnOddball

    RatherAnOddball Senior member

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    Yes, it's the same, though I like your term better; it's much more esoteric and consequently is certain to provoke an all-betraying shudder of fright on the face of any tailor who doesn't know enough to deserve my business.
    It's a swell tweak, isn't it? Deserves a thread all its own. I only got into it with my last pair of trousers, the method was a little willynilly; next time I'll go in with precise measurements for the angle.
     
  11. Orsini

    Orsini Senior member

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    Yes, it's the same, though I like your term better; it's much more esoteric and consequently is certain to provoke an all-betraying shudder of fright on the face of any tailor who doesn't know enough to deserve my business. It's a swell tweak, isn't it? Deserves a thread all its own. I only got into it with my last pair of trousers, the method was a little willynilly; next time I'll go in with precise measurements for the angle.
    When you are adding brace buttons to trousers that do not come from the manufacturer that way, you have to watch out! There isn't an alteration so simple that you can't find some "tailor" to mess it up for you --- I've been through four so far... Sometimes the buttons end up not only poorly positioned, but done so that the inside of the trouser waistband is pulled up when you wear them and is visible to the public. I can tell you from personal experience, this looks dreadful! Anyway, if you are going to wear gallusses, you really need high rise trousers to fit with the vest properly. Incidentally, I wonder if this vendor is any good? http://www.suspenderstore.com/
     
  12. RatherAnOddball

    RatherAnOddball Senior member

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    Hi Orsini -

    My last message was in reference to "Guardsman's slant," if I didn't make that clear, sorry.
    I think the suspender site that you linked to only sells th clip-on kind?
    As for getting the bracers buttons put on right, I thought the rule was that the innermost button goes over your trouser pleat or the area where it would've been if it had one...?
     
  13. Orsini

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    Hi Orsini - My last message was in reference to "Guardsman's slant," if I didn't make that clear, sorry.
    Thank you. I had never heard that term, "tipped", to describe it.
    I think the suspender site that you linked to only sells th clip-on kind?
    Clip-on braces, only... I guess I should have zoomed in. It looks then like we can pass that vendor by...
    As for getting the bracers buttons put on right, I thought the rule was that the innermost button goes over your trouser pleat or the area where it would've been if it had one...?
    That is my understanding, too...
     
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    I'm sure there is still someone out there that would have something to say about this. I don't see the big deal in it, I have such a hard time findting pants without them. I will usualy just have them removed with my other alterations.
     
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    If my trousers came with both loops and buttons, if I wore braces would it look silly to others as though I forgot my belt? Or would the jacket do an adequate job at hiding this fact?
     
  17. Mild Mannered

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    I can see the clip-on suspenders with belt hoops being forgiveable, but not the button ones.
    Even the clip-ons can pull the pants unpredictably high enough to reveal to others which way you hang as well as your religion.
    Just my own preference, but if one is going to wear suspenders, why not do it right and have certain pants for that use only?
     
  18. elite123

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    I see no problem in it.
     
  19. bowtielover

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    Prefectly acceptable, most pants come with them anyways so it would not be a problem. You could always get them removed if you really wanted to but I wouldn't.
     
  20. Captain Winky

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    As a tangent to this question, is it possible to have a tailor use extra material from the bottom of the trousers to make side tabs and remove the belt loops? I like braces but would never wear them if I were wearing a suit w/o a tie; in that case I'd always go with a belt. However I'd also do side tabs w/o a tie. My RLBL suits tend to have the tabs and I always have braces buttons added so I can wear braces when I'm dressing up and just tighten the tabs when going a bit more casual.
     

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