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Supplements

Discussion in 'Health & Body' started by Willie5566, Jan 3, 2011.

  1. 2balls

    2balls Senior member

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    Cytosport whey protein- I really do not recommend this protein, tastes like shit, bought on sale at costco
    Xtenze BCAA's
    costco multivitamin
     
  2. superspace02

    superspace02 New Member

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    I just purchased some Collostrum pills, anyone have any experience with those? Apparently they help with digestion, muscle recovery, and have anti-inflammatory properties, but that could be complete BS.
     
  3. jimmyfingers

    jimmyfingers Senior member

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    I agree most of this is bullshit. A proper diet should be it and most rec a multivitamin.

    quality whey is good, but should be cycled. Creatine is good/bad depending on how you use it.

    Most people are just wasting their time and money on this stuff. My uncle is a sports doc and deals with the questions all the time.
     
  4. GreenFrog

    GreenFrog Senior member

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    I drink whey protein isolate after my work outs. My only other source of protein is real food -- chicken breast, eggs, greek yogurt, etc.

    I've been achieving the same gains with this regiment as I did when I was taking a boat load of work out supplements, such as creatine, Animal M-stak, multivitamins (I still think multis are good; im just too lazy to take them), fish oils, and pre-intra workout shakes. Simply stick to protein now.
     
  5. mr Dala

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    PreW: coffein+L-arginine Why buy expensive brands with 10-15 components or similar when this two are the only components that actually work. During workout:juice and honey PostW: protein isolates from gold standard 100% whey For vitamins I have Omega3, and VitD and C pending on season, other then that I have 3 different kinds of fruits each day for antioxidants. Almost every brand out there on supplements have 80% of useless components, so why should we buy and pay for that
     
  6. akatsuki

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    I agree most of this is bullshit. A proper diet should be it and most rec a multivitamin.

    quality whey is good, but should be cycled. Creatine is good/bad depending on how you use it.

    Most people are just wasting their time and money on this stuff. My uncle is a sports doc and deals with the questions all the time.


    Multivitamins may shorten lifespan.

    Omega-3 research is reasonably solid - so fish oil is probably worth it. Creatine research is also pretty solid for athletic performance.

    As for the rest? I thought about trying out PAGG stacking, but it is too pricey on a monthly basis for things of doubtable value (sorry Tim, but an n=1 while changing a ton of other factors is not scientific at all). Maybe if they come out with a unified pill that isn't $92 a month or whatever I'll give it a shot.

    Ask your uncle about fat and carbs in the diet. Does dietary cholesterol raise your blood cholesterol? What about saturated fat? How good are those studies?

    If he says that they are good studies, he is wrong. Most nutrition studies are observational and just show correlation, and some of them are just terrible studies.
     
  7. CCAurora

    CCAurora Active Member

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    Multivitamins may shorten lifespan.

    Omega-3 research is reasonably solid - so fish oil is probably worth it. Creatine research is also pretty solid for athletic performance.

    As for the rest? I thought about trying out PAGG stacking, but it is too pricey on a monthly basis for things of doubtable value (sorry Tim, but an n=1 while changing a ton of other factors is not scientific at all). Maybe if they come out with a unified pill that isn't $92 a month or whatever I'll give it a shot.

    Ask your uncle about fat and carbs in the diet. Does dietary cholesterol raise your blood cholesterol? What about saturated fat? How good are those studies?

    If he says that they are good studies, he is wrong. Most nutrition studies are observational and just show correlation, and some of them are just terrible studies.


    Some good stuff here. I'll just add that *synthetic multivitamins are the ones that can shorten your life. Synthetic isolates are dangerous! A study in Switzerland showed a 19% INCREASE in breast cancer amongst women taking a multivitamin.
     
  8. CCAurora

    CCAurora Active Member

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    quality whey is good, but should be cycled.

    LOL, strong broscience
     
  9. MikeO

    MikeO Active Member

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    Why would one need to cycle whey?
     
  10. CCAurora

    CCAurora Active Member

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    Why would one need to cycle whey?

    They wouldn't, provided they use a pure brand with no heavy metals, artificial flavorings, etc... I'm a proponent for buying the most bare-bones whey you can and adding your own flavors so at least you know where they're coming from.
     
  11. jarude

    jarude Senior member

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    green tea extract is an idiot proof supplement with guaranteed positive effects. cheap, too. no reason not to take it.
     
  12. sharwood

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    green tea extract is an idiot proof supplement with guaranteed positive effects. cheap, too. no reason not to take it.

    What are the guaranteed positive effects?
     
  13. CCAurora

    CCAurora Active Member

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    What are the guaranteed positive effects?

    Probably the most nutrient-dense caffeine source on earth
     
  14. jarude

    jarude Senior member

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    What are the guaranteed positive effects?

    here
     
  15. sharwood

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    here

    ...not impressed.
     
  16. URALLMORONS

    URALLMORONS Senior member

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    green tea extract is an idiot proof supplement with guaranteed positive effects. cheap, too. no reason not to take it.

    No proof of your claim....prove it with sited medical sources that say as such.
     
  17. Prada_Ferragamo

    Prada_Ferragamo Senior member

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    My current list:
    Optinum Nutritions: whey, casein, multi, fiber
    USP labs: jack3d
    MRI: black powder
    Gaspari nutritions: BCAA 6000
    no brand omegas, fish oil.
     
  18. matt22616

    matt22616 Senior member

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    May be slightly OT, but is anyone else pissed at the FDA for banning piracetam? I was just getting into the groove w/ it and they pulled it, no doubt realizing its potential marketability. Kunts.
     
  19. Prada_Ferragamo

    Prada_Ferragamo Senior member

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    I am still pissed that they banned ephedra.
     
  20. matt22616

    matt22616 Senior member

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    I was talking about it w/ my friend who's in a pharmacology program (gateway to his MD), and he put it very well: "The FDA just likes to shit on everyone's parade."
     

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