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Superfoods!

Discussion in 'Health & Body' started by javyn, Apr 3, 2008.

  1. turbozed

    turbozed Senior member

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    If ya buy enough Spirulina at once in bulk (4 lbs for 60 dollars), it will cost you $2.70 a month taking 3 grams a day.

    Again, I think this warrants repeating, all those wonderful green mixes are really worthless IMO.

    Wheatgrass, alfalfa, and barley grasses are all incredibly inferior to spirulina and chlorella algaes from both nutritional and detoxification standpoints. (chlorella has literally 10 times the amount of chlorophyll as wheatgrass, for instance)

    So, as far as those greens+, etc mixes go, I consider the spirulina and chlorella in there (usually no more than 1 gram a serving) to be the good stuff, and the rest to be filler.

    Completely pointless when you can eliminate the filler grasses and just buy bulk algaes for less the price. 3 grams of spirulina a day is going to do you much better than half a gram of spirulina plus 2.5 grams of alfalfa and barley grass, dig?



    I know nothing about the relative potencies or health benefits of the various greens sources in the greens mixtures. Can you briefly explain what is used to measure the 'nutritional and detoxification' profiles of these sources? Is it just the chlorophyll?

    I read up on the various greens powders a while back for a couple of days and decided to go for the cheapest of the pre-mixed. If I could save even more money and get similar (or even better) nutritional value, then I'm all for it. Got a good source of spirulina/chlorella? Thanks in advance.
     
  2. javyn

    javyn Senior member

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    Good call. If it's worth it to you, then it's worth it.

    People tell me that spirulina/chlorella are too expensive to take regularly, but as you can see, after breaking it down by cost per gram, I'm only spending 33 cents a day and I triple the recommended dose.

    A year's supply of spirulina and chlorella costs me about 120 bucks. The pack a day smoking habit I gave up in order to get healthy cost me over $1800 a year. Pretty good tradeoff I'd say.
     
  3. javyn

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    Yeah but give me a while to re-gather all my sources regarding nutrition. I've been on a massive algae kick lately. Not just from a food standpoint, but these algaes make perfect biofuel. Far more efficient than corn, and it costs next to nothing to grow. A power plant in AZ has currently hooked its CO2 exhaust into a massive algae farm. So the algae cleans up the emissions, releases oxygen, then the power plant turns around and sells the algae which gets put into a giant centerfuge and turned into crude oil. Fascinating. Turning waste into profitability, capitalism and enviromentalism working hand in hand for a change. It's beautiful. edit: Oh yes, I just purchased 4 lbs of spirulina for 60 bucks and 2.2 lbs of chlorella for 47 from allstarhealth.com. Best prices I have found. MSRP for 4 lbs of spirulina is over 100 dollars. edit 2: there is tons of good information on spirulina and chlorella on youtube. One video in particular comes to mind that I found very touching. They've instituted a program in the poorest parts of India, giving children a mere 1 gram a day of spirulina to stave off malnutrition, and it's working wonders for them.
    I know nothing about the relative potencies or health benefits of the various greens sources in the greens mixtures. Can you briefly explain what is used to measure the 'nutritional and detoxification' profiles of these sources? Is it just the chlorophyll? I read up on the various greens powders a while back for a couple of days and decided to go for the cheapest of the pre-mixed. If I could save even more money and get similar (or even better) nutritional value, then I'm all for it. Got a good source of spirulina/chlorella? Thanks in advance.
     
  4. turbozed

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    Yeah but give me a while to re-gather all my sources regarding nutrition. I've been on a massive algae kick lately. Not just from a food standpoint, but these algaes make perfect biofuel. Far more efficient than corn, and it costs next to nothing to grow.

    Yeah, I've watched a few shows about this on the Science channel. Looks pretty promising. Corn as a biofuel produces just as much CO2 in production as burning fossil fuels and has the unwanted side-effect of taking away a valuable food source during a global food shortage.

    Sounds good. I'll try to find some small samples before I commit to buying $100 worth of bulk algae powders though. Do you just mix the two together 4:2.2? Is there any difference between the two from a nutritional standpoint? I've always made it a point to get as much variety as possible, but if there's no real varietal benefit to taking alfalfa and wheatgrass along with chlorella and spirulina then I have no problem. I guess I'll spend some time on youtube.
     
  5. turbozed

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    Okay so I just bought a pound each of cholorella and spirulina (both from NOW Foods). Any suggestions on the ratio of each I should be taking?

    Seems like spirulina has a bit more scientific backing to it and chlorella has some issues with bioavailability of its nutrients. Does 2:1 spirulina to chlorella sound about right?
     
  6. javyn

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    2:1 is perfect. Just be sure your chlorella is broken or cracked cell wall. Chlorella's cell wall is indigestible, so it needs to be broken with a high pressure air spray so your body can get at the nutrients inside.

    Spirulina has far more beta carotene, and is the second highest source of GLA in the world (next to human breast milk). Chlorella's cell wall binds to toxins and metals like mercury, aluminum, and cadmium, allowing you to pass them through the stool. Chlorella has far more chlorophyll also. Those are the main differences between the two.

    I've racked my brain trying to determine which one would be better to take, and I just can't. Both have their strengths so I take both.

    Since you are taking them for the first time, go slow with a small dose, especially with the chlorella, and work your way up. Taking too much at the beginning could trigger a "healing crisis". They are so good at detox, they release toxins that have been building up in your body all this time, and it could make you temporarily sick. 2 Years ago when I first took spirulina it gave me terrible migraines and stomach aches. But the next morning after I woke up I felt better than I ever have in my life.

    The taste will take getting used to, but you will get used to it. Just mix it in pineapple or apple juice.

    I'll gather up the nutrition info I have on them during my lunch break today.

    Also, NOW is a very good brand. I take their spirulina and Jarrow brand chlorella. But I have read NOW chlorella is the equivalent of Jarrow as far as quality goes so you did well.
     
  7. MLIW

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    Goji Berrys
     
  8. javyn

    javyn Senior member

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    What do goji berries 'do'? At ~45 bucks a kilo they seem kinda pricey.
     
  9. taktikz

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    Just purchased NOW Spirulina 500mg (180 tabs) and Jarrow Formulas Chlorella (100g powder)

    All for $12 at iHerb (added the first time buyer discount)

    Let's see how these help with my energy levels... :p
     
  10. kaiimac

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    I just purchased Vitamin Shoppe's Chlorella 1000mg and Nutrex Natural Spirulina 500mg along with some cold milled flax seeds to mix into my protein shakes. I took my first Chlorella last night, and boy does it stink! And it makes my pee green... Fun! I didn't read about the broken cell walls until now, and I don't think mine have that...oh well, I'm going to take them anyway and see what happens.
     
  11. taktikz

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    How much did you pay at Vitamine Shoppe?
     
  12. kaiimac

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    How much did you pay at Vitamine Shoppe?
    The Chlorella was $8.99 for 100 x 1000mg. The Spirulina was 11.99 for 200 x 500mg. I got the cheapest ones they had (in pill form.) I am wondering if I should take back the Chlorella and get some that definitely say broken cell walls.
     
  13. javyn

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    Broken cell wall is very important, or else you'll get none of the nutrients inside. Find it hard to belive that any company sells chlorella without a broken cell wall, but it doesn't say it on the label so I'd take it back.
     
  14. taktikz

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    How long til you start noticing the effects?
    Tried my first dose of Spirulina and Chlorella about 2 hours ago...
     
  15. binge

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    I love superfood! Popcorn with a cheese taste...what could be better!
     
  16. turbozed

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    How long til you start noticing the effects?
    Tried my first dose of Spirulina and Chlorella about 2 hours ago...


    Unless, you were severely deficient in whatever nutrients Spirulina/Chlorella contan, then you likely won't feel anything at all. A lot of people report higher energy levels. I think you'd have to really know how your body reacts and gauge it over the long term in order to get a good idea how it affects you.
     
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  18. javyn

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    I notice a blast of energy from the spirulina in an hour or two. Chlorella takes 5 or 6 hours to digest. I think Spirulina since it's more easily digested will give faster energy, where chlorella will take time but give a steady stream of energy over a long while. At least, that's how it affected me. I have tried them separate from each other, to try to see if I preferred one over the other to save some money having to buy both...but turns out I like taking both at the same time best of all.
    How long til you start noticing the effects? Tried my first dose of Spirulina and Chlorella about 2 hours ago...
     
  19. william

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    Took spirulina for the first time yesterday. Awesome.

    Question...do the effects lessen over time?
     
  20. Flambeur

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    Hmm maybe will try some, plus some fish oil or something to add to my usual vitamins + extra c + zinc
     

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