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Superfoods!

Discussion in 'Health & Body' started by javyn, Apr 3, 2008.

  1. javyn

    javyn Senior member

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    Odwalla's effective ingredient is actually spirulina. They just flash-pasturize it so its' not as good, and not to mention expensive as hell!

    I take 5 grams of spirulina and 10 grams of chlorella a day. I will doubling this amount in a month or so once my body adjusts to this level I am taking now (I have recently doubled the chlorella to 10. I ws taking 5).
     
  2. Thomas

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    kwik, chlorella and spirulina are both different types of algaes, and both are the most nutrient dense foods in the world. A single teaspoon of spirulina for example, contains around 200% of the daily recommended value of vitamin a in beta carotene form, and 33% vitamin b12.

    Both are also great sources of chlorophyll, with chlorella having by far the highest concentration of it than any other source. spirulina comes in at a distant second. Both are also incredibly sources of protein, second only to the egg.

    Chlorella is also great for detoxification, because it's tough cell wall binds to mercury and other poisonous metals and enables you to pass them. Which is why it's a good idea to start off slow with chlorella and work your way up to the normal dose, you WILL shit your guts out when you first take it.


    Since they're algae, can I just scrape the green film from my pool and drop that in the blender? Sounds about the same. [​IMG]

    Not the first time I've heard this, and strangely enough, not the first time I've given it serious consideration.
     
  3. javyn

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    Because many strains of algae are toxic and can kill you.


    By the way, I don't take it all at once, I break up my dose throughout the day. I take in 5 gram increments. So one dose of spirulina and two of chlorella taken separately throughout the day.
     
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    So javyn,

    Where do you buy chlorella and spirulina? (I prefer to buy locally)

    How much does it cost per day for you to take them?

    I will just buy one of them for now, which one would you prefer?

    Can you actually taste the chlorella/spirulina? What flavor?

    Thanks
     
  5. javyn

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    If you buy locally, you will pay out the ass. I buy from luckyvitamin.com. Iherb.com is slightly more expensive, but they have reviews so you can research the brands you seem interested in. Both of those sites are 35 - 60% lower than retail, so going local isn't really a good way to do it in this case unfortunately.

    Yes, you will taste both at first. Chlorella is grassy and spirulina is a bit fishy. Start out mixing it in pineapple juice or apple juice until you get accustomed to the taste. After a week or so I quit noticing the taste at all and can drink them with just water now. But don't let the taste scare you away at first, use juices.

    Also, it's best to eat both on an empty stomach. And eat chlorella half an hour before a meal.
     
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    Because many strains of algae are toxic and can kill you.


    By the way, I don't take it all at once, I break up my dose throughout the day. I take in 5 gram increments. So one dose of spirulina and two of chlorella taken separately throughout the day.


    I shave with a straight razor and am therefore manly and invulnerable. I laugh in the face of death. Except when I nick myself.

    I think Mrs. T loaded up on Japanese chlorella tables (liquid sunlight?), maybe I'll start up on those since she's not using them. May try spirulina once I get back to running again.
     
  7. javyn

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    I've broken it down, it costs from 4 - 6 cents a gram if you get the powder in bulk. Try not to pay above that.

    And just starting out, I'd recommend spirulina since it's easier on the stomach and won't lead to immediate detox. It also ROCKS for giving incredible amounts of energy.
     
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    I ... am therefore manly and invulnerable. I laugh in the face of death.


    All while having a Bea Arthur avatar. That, sir, is impressive.
     
  9. javyn

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    Japanese chorella (vulgaris) is more nutritious than the Chinese strain (pyrenoidosa), but Chinese has tougher cell walls and will do a better job at detox.

    The brand she probably has is Sun Chlorella, it's the most popular sold, but also really expensive.

    I take Jarrow Yaeyama (vulgaris) in powder form. It's the superior Japanese strain, in powder form, and much cheaper if you buy it by kilo from one of the bulk vitamin sites.

    I'd of course recommend getting a small 4 oz bottle to try first though. Don't want to drop 50 bucks on a kilo if you end up hating it or being unable to tolerate or put up with the initial detox symptoms from taking it.

     
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    How do the detoxifying properties compare to those of my own mid-stream urine?



    Well, somebody had to say it.
     
  11. javyn

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    Wasn't that big a deal to me. I had a bad headache for a day, and the shits for a few days. The more healthy you are the less you'll feel the detox I guess. Some people get REALLY sick though taking too much at first. It's nothing harmful, just uncomfortable. Which is why it's a good idea to start with 500mg and increase by 500mg weekly until you are at the dose you want. You'll still remove toxins just at a slower rate.
     
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    All while having a Bea Arthur avatar. That, sir, is impressive.

    well, I'm manly and invulnerable while being sensitive and feminine in an AARP-grammar-school teacher kind of way.

    Actually I've misplaced my Tick avatar and am having to make do for the moment.

    The brand she probably has is Sun Chlorella, it's the most popular sold, but also really expensive.

    I take Jarrow Yaeyama (vulgaris) in powder form. It's the superior Japanese strain, in powder form, and much cheaper if you buy it by kilo from one of the bulk vitamin sites.

    I'd of course recommend getting a small 4 oz bottle to try first though. Don't want to drop 50 bucks on a kilo if you end up hating it or being unable to tolerate or put up with the initial detox symptoms from taking it.


    That's it! Sun Chlorella. Totally forgot. The dosage recommended would choke a horse iirc, and since we moved only God knows where the boxes are. May try it again tonight if I can find it. Don't recall any trouble the first time though.
     
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    The "maintenance" dose is 3 grams per day, "detox or healing" dose is 10-15, and "athletic or super-healing" is 30.
     
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    For a long time now, I've been looking into superfoods and such. I've wanted to try out some of these things but never actually done it. Perhaps now I will.

    Do either of these help with aenemia?
     
  15. javyn

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    Yes James, spirulina has a really high iron content. It should help.
     
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    Yes James, spirulina has a really high iron content. It should help.

    Lovely; thank you.
     
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    I'm still rather confused. Do I want the powder or the pills?
     
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    I'm still rather confused. Do I want the powder or the pills?

    mix the powder in your fruit juice and stir with vigor to reduce clumping. It's the only way I could take it.
     
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    If you buy locally, you will pay out the ass. I buy from luckyvitamin.com. Iherb.com is slightly more expensive, but they have reviews so you can research the brands you seem interested in. Both of those sites are 35 - 60% lower than retail, so going local isn't really a good way to do it in this case unfortunately.

    Today I went to my local Whole Foods and boy, you were right, the prices were ridiculous! ~$60 for a 500ml bottle of liquid spirulina!

    Thanks for the websites javyn, but could you tell me exactly which spirulina product you buy from luckyvitamin.com?

    Also, I read this about chlorella:

    * To detoxify your body*
    * Improve your digestive system, including decreasing constipation*
    * Focus more clearly and for greater duration*
    * Promote a healthy pH balance*
    * Help freshen breath*

    Is this true, specifially the focus more clearly part? I'm a student right so that might help.

    If spirulina helps workouts then I'm all for it!
     
  20. javyn

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    500ml? Insane, that has got to be a tincture. I have the 16 ounce bottle of spirulina powder by Nutrex from luckyvitamin.com for around 30 bucks. Nutrex is supposedly the best, but also the priciest. When this runs out I think I'm going to go with the 4 lb tub from NOW for 70 dollars. Or I might go to herbalcom.com and get it in bulk for 14 dollars a pound. I do hesitate though ordering from a bulk herb store... These supps though really do suck toxins from just about everything though, and comtamination can be an issue, so be sure to get it from a name brand or bulk supplier you trust. I have used many NOW supplements and find their quality to be very good.

    It definitely helps me focus more clearly! Then again, I started taking soy lecithin granules at the same time, and that's supposedly great for focus and clearing the "brain fog" as well...so I can't tell you which one is helping me in that regard, or whether its both. But yes, I certainly am able to focus now. My mental energy now is amazing. A few weeks ago I had to work 12+ hours to get some document production out, big deadline, and towards the end of the day all of my frazzled co-workers were giving me crap telling me to calm the hell down.

    I have had lots of b12 injections in my life, and that is the only thing I can compare it too...hell I think the spiru gives me even more of a sense of "well being" and energy than the b12...not that I plan on stopping the injections every time I visit my dad (he's a doctor).
     

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