Suitsupply - still a good value (and fit) ?

[zewill]

Hello to everyone ! I have not posted much on SF but have always enjoyed lurking in the shadows!
I learned here about clothes, suits, shoes. I bought a lot from suitsupply and Spier and Mackay. I'm not reaching yet for high quality tailoring but still developing my stile and colors and patterns
I was recently tempted again buy an original suitsupply offering, a ferla baby alpaca wool blend sports jacket.
I managed to score one last year during a sale outlet for Canada (rare! Seeing there wasn't any this year). I thought this was a gamble and it paid off, eventually being the best fitting of the lot! It was only around 350 taxes in .. Amazing deal.
So I decided to pull the trigger on a full price one. It was priced at 639$ + tx expensive but why not...

When it arrived in store, the price was blanked out. Underneath I was surprised to see it priced at 399$ (probably usd). I know the cabadian dollar has gone down the drain vs the US dollar but that should amount to 540 cad max. They added another 20%
Which makes me wonder... Is suitsupply still good value? It seems they have increased pricing quite a bit.
It must cost them a lot having those salesman and those nice boutiques.
When I can score a Spier and Mackay jacket at nearlyvhalf the price during a sale + end of season destocking, I'm now deciding all my options...
What is your take on this?

 

[zewill]

And on fit... Depending on models and collection and year I am in between their R and Long offerings which is annoying as it does add up with tailoring... either short sleeves or slightly on long jacket...

 

[masernaut]

IMO, Suitsupply lost its value when it began creating skinny fit skinny lapel jackets with lululemon yoga pant tight trousers. Competitors have sprung up to Suitsupply. The only thing they have going for them is being daring with various fabrics and patterns.

A lot of the jackets are also cut with an emphasis on removing as much lining as possible which to me, seems like cost-cutting when they should be offering more value as they increase prices.

 

[Viatu]

Regarding fit Suitsupply chose to go the route of fashion instead of timeless style. So, they will suffer as tastes change. And, I don't think they are a good bargain anymore especially with Spier and Mackay in existence.

 

[FlyingHorker]

IMO, Suitsupply lost its value when it began creating skinny fit skinny lapel jackets with lululemon yoga pant tight trousers. Competitors have sprung up to Suitsupply. The only thing they have going for them is being daring with various fabrics and patterns.

A lot of the jackets are also cut with an emphasis on removing as much lining as possible which to me, seems like cost-cutting when they should be offering more value as they increase prices.

I thought less lining=more work due to finishing?

 

[zewill]

Fait points Everyone! Was really impressed with Spier Mackay in the construction .. shows how much profit suitsupply is making! People need to give Spier a try. Still will keep suit supply in mind but will also shop around.
The suit I received from SM looked great and the trousers needs some work on it which is normal. Tried a suit at SS yesterday (should I call them $$? ) and barely fit in the legs, felt like a legging... I thought people exagerated when they said that but I now understand... I'm very slender, 6ft2 175 lbs.. and don't event squat! I own other suit supply suits from previous years and trousers are perfect. Wierd ..

 

[Viatu]

Oh, and another company that is in this price range (a little higher though w/suits around $700 or $800) is Pini Parma. They are an Italian company and I believe the owner used to work for Boggi. Great looking suits, jackets, trousers, coats, etc. I think it's a matter of time before Spier, Pini, and the like really put a dent in Suitsupply's sales. And, everything from the Pini website can be purchased via their MTO program.

 

[zewill]

Oh, and another company that is in this price range (a little higher though w/suits around $700 or $800) is Pini Parma. They are an Italian company and I believe the owner used to work for Boggi. Great looking suits, jackets, trousers, coats, etc. I think it's a matter of time before Spier, Pini, and the like really put a dent in Suitsupply's sales. And, everything from the Pini website can be purchased via their MTO program.

Thank! Not sure if I needed another website to spend money on
Also unsure why pini uses an older mature model for their suits which are quite fitted (read too tight? ) . This guy looks like a suitsupply model in 30 years ceteris paribus with regards to style

 

[Viatu]

Thank! Not sure if I needed another website to spend money on
Also unsure why pini uses an older mature model for their suits which are quite fitted (read too tight? ) . This guy looks like a suitsupply model in 30 years ceteris paribus with regards to style
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You think that's tight?

 

[Rugger]

Regarding fit Suitsupply chose to go the route of fashion instead of timeless style. So, they will suffer as tastes change. And, I don't think they are a good bargain anymore especially with Spier and Mackay in existence.

No they wont. As tastes change, they'll adjust and...sell more suits.

 

[zewill]

For a person his age, I do! Im in my mid thirties and, for my taste, he does show to much socks and it looks a bit tight around mid section... I would feel restricted.. maybe it's the position he is in that gives this impression ? Will that cut age well? again, my perception of it I guess I need to get one to find out
Back to bashing Suitsupply pricing

 

[Sellidor]

Oh, and another company that is in this price range (a little higher though w/suits around $700 or $800) is Pini Parma. They are an Italian company and I believe the owner used to work for Boggi. Great looking suits, jackets, trousers, coats, etc. I think it's a matter of time before Spier, Pini, and the like really put a dent in Suitsupply's sales. And, everything from the Pini website can be purchased via their MTO program.

Actually, for now, I don't think Suit Supply has many competitors here in Europe (until Spier & Mackay hopefully establishes a presence here).

Pini Parma is admittedly quite nice: I think their trousers are their strongest point. However, I'm not too impressed by their jackets. The price is significantly higher than Suit Supply (around €500 compared to €250-300), but I don't feel like the fabrics are significantly better. Plus they're both half-canvassed. They also both have the same issue of relatively high buttoning stances. And PP's jackets are even shorter than SS's! On the whole, I'd rather get two SS jackets instead of one PP jacket--otherwise I'd just go MTM.

 

[Daniel Hakimi]

IMO, Suitsupply lost its value when it began creating skinny fit skinny lapel jackets with lululemon yoga pant tight trousers. Competitors have sprung up to Suitsupply. The only thing they have going for them is being daring with various fabrics and patterns.

A lot of the jackets are also cut with an emphasis on removing as much lining as possible which to me, seems like cost-cutting when they should be offering more value as they increase prices.

Aside from Spier & Mackay, who would you say is a good value competitor? I like Black Lapel too, by the way, but... I don't see a ton of competition on price.

 

[Daniel Hakimi]

Oh, and another company that is in this price range (a little higher though w/suits around $700 or $800) is Pini Parma. They are an Italian company and I believe the owner used to work for Boggi. Great looking suits, jackets, trousers, coats, etc. I think it's a matter of time before Spier, Pini, and the like really put a dent in Suitsupply's sales. And, everything from the Pini website can be purchased via their MTO program.

Are you confused about suitsupply pricing? Pini Parma charges double, without the US locations. They're kind of competitors, but barely.

 

[zewill]

So people here still believe SS offers great pricing? In North America, Spier is much better value, was amazed to see the details in the jacket (underarms protections for example).
SS still has the upper hand on fabrics (for now at least).
Anyone knows how much suitsupply increased pricing by?