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Suitsupply NYC

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by musicguy, Jun 20, 2011.

  1. razl

    razl Senior member

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    I'm a sucker for the linen suit, but I'll say the same thing about the lapels that I said to Berzerk91 - the peaks being above your shoulders and, heck, even off your chest pointed skyward is ridiculous. I notice though that the problem is only on linen (36R) and not the wool (38R). I'm wondering it if's a sizing issue on the wearer or, maybe, that some of their size patterns just don't have the lapels scaled correctly.

     
  2. Hotel Guy

    Hotel Guy Senior member

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    Thanks for the comments Razl. Yea its definitely not a suit you'd wear to a funeral, but its a more aggressive cut and I really like it. Also forgot to mention that the linen 36R is a Washington cut and the 38R is a Washington Half cut so there was some variance in the sizing based on the Half being a little slimmer.
     
  3. Needsmoreshoes

    Needsmoreshoes Senior member

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    EDIT - just seen this was posted several pages ago, apologies. My rampant opinions are still somewhat valid though.

    http://www.menofhabit.com/first-look-suitsupply-fw-12/ - Sneak peak

    http://www.suitsupply.com/on/demandware.store/Sites-INT-Site/en_GB/Page-Show?cid=FallWinter2012 - Pre orders

    Sneak peak at their FW12 - I'm sadly not super impressed, some of their stuff has enormous lapels which are just unwearably big. I also feel that peak lapels on any form of herringbone or tweed blazer is just a little off if you see what I mean, it sort of opposes the rustic simplicity of the fabric.

    Psyched to see some more of their coats though, really hope they've got a nice thick double breasted in navy - I don't have the cash to go crazy on a nice overcoat and I think if anyone was going to get a well priced one right it would be SS.
     
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    I'm surprised so many people keep saying this. IMO they are ripping off styling cues from Tom Ford (big peak lapels... 3 piece...) and if the suits were labeled TF everyone would be gushing over them.
     
  5. CousinDonuts

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    There are 2 areas where SS seems to work:
    1) SS appears to be better for slimmer guys who are still built like they play a sport. I think chocsosa said once he was a LeBron size which means tall, with broad shoulders and chest, but still tapered to his waist. I am a 6' version of that (minus the barrel chest, unfortunately). I'm built like a cross country runner and I have played soccer my whole life. I can wear a 38-40 jacket then drop to a 32 waist on the pant.
    2) The company is Dutch and caters to young people, therefore some of the styling is more fashion forward than say Brooks Brothers. Higher button stances and higher notches is one of those. So if you want a Euro cut then it may be an option. If you want fuller cut, classic American style then probably not.

    Personally, I like the higher notch because I think it looks sleeker compared to the below-your-tie-knot notches of the 80s and 90s. And on the fit, for a guy like me, I have found their jackets have a bigger drop and therefore need less alterations through the body.

    There will always be outliers. SS has 3 different factories, and you're bound to have some discrepancies between them. Myself as an example, I didn't touch the jacket on the first Napoli suit I bought, then 6 months later I get a 2nd and I had to do some tailoring. Some areas were identical - shoulders, sleeves, length - but the body was slightly different. So it goes.

    So to quad's point above, yeah it's not going to work for everyone. A colleague of mine who is of similar build but paunchier in the stomach had a J Press blazer. Fit him well. I put it on and thought it was like wearing a box. What has been good about Style Forum for me is that I can see people in other brands and start to get a sense of what may or may not work. Saves me time and shipping fees when looking for suits. :)
     
  6. chocsosa

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    I agree Cousin..Im not a fan of the lower gorge thing. While I respect that it has it's place in the traditional sense of tailoring, its not really my thing. And it does have a more aggressive taper than a brook brothers but not tight. For instance I saw a brooks brothers suit the other day at Nordy Rack.. decent fabric in the fitz cut in my size.. I would to have done too much work (take in waist, lengthen sleeves, taper sleeves a little, take in pants, taper pant legs, hem pants, and add sleeve buttons). Like I said too much work. I have not had to do half that on both suits combined..and I believe they are both half canvassed..on a side note I did pick up a fly Zegna Suit in the milano cut.. my third Zegna suit in a trefeo fabric..had to do minimal work and it looks awesome.. light blueish grayish fabric with pinstripes and 20% silk... straight money! lol
     
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    Agreed. I could see these same lapels on a TF and people saying how beautiful they are. I'm not insinuating their suits are cut extremely well either, but the lapel gorge height IS a style choice. Now their button stances are another subject.....
     
  8. SuitMyself

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    Hello, Can anyone tell me if UPS will charge you for the duties upon delivery, or does UPS bill you later with a statement in the mail? Thanks.
     
  9. razl

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    My experience has always been a bill after the fact. Note that I'm in the US, it might work differently elsewhere.
     
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    Thanks!
     
  11. jaymac10

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    Actually, I believe that SS covers ALL of the charges... In my shipping label, it states to send all charges/duties to SS!

    So I believe there is absolutely no charges.

    I ordered 9 suits so I'll let you know if I ever get a bill in the mail. It would be expensive so I better not!

    Cheers,

    Jay
     
  12. SuitMyself

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    That would be impressive indeed.

    Where are these suits made? In the European Union or in China?
     
  13. patliean1

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    Italian fabrics....suits made it China.

    On a sidenote I ordered a pair of double monks from their site. That was 3 weeks ago and I did not get charged duty fees.
     
  14. CousinDonuts

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    I think they have 3 facilities, one in China, the other 2 in Europe - Portugal and Czech Republic maybe. But I can't remember where I read that.

    I have bought 2 suits, one in August 2011 and the other in March 2012. Neither time was I charged shipping (coming or going) or received any duty charges later.
     
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  15. chocsosa

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    which other did you get Cousin... I know you have a navy one.. did you get the charcoal one as well.. mine are doing pretty well after 6 months or so of wear..how are yours holding almost a year in?
     
  16. TweedyProf

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    I thought I would post having gone with MTM, in this case a sport coat. Happened to be vacationing in Amsterdam and ordered one on 7/3. The salespeople were great at the Willemsparkweg store, came in without an appointment and they worked me in. The scheduled delivery is 8/28...I'm going to be in Europe again on business, and so it's going to be shipped to the MTM in Antwerp, where I'll be. Hopefully, it will be there when I am there and they won't need to do too much to the jacket, but if time is tight, I might bring it home and have it fixed at SS here in DC when I go there at some point.

    The total cost was 299 euros. I think this was on a slight special. Fully canvassed Napoli jacket, full lining in one of their basic fabrics. The fabrics are Italian, and I was told that the fabric is cut in Italy and then sent to China to be put together, then back to Europe.

    They were able to lower the button stance a bit, and I could choose buttons, some stitching details, vents, the type of lining (alas, only my second choice was available). I discussed having a 3 button rather than 2, but I believe was locked into 2 (a 3/2 roll not an option). I went with the Napoli which is mid-level from the London and the third option (name escapes me). My shoulders slope a bit, but honestly, I'm a little tired of having my shoulders "equalized" to some ideal. But we'll see if that was the right choice...it didn't look so bad at the store, but this is my first MTM.

    I don't have much else to report right now. Will post pictures when I receive it.

    On pricing. What I have noticed is that the prices in the US are a bit higher, eg. about $50 for sport coats, than in Europe, once you convert euros to dollars. That may be when the duties get figured in perhaps? I was told that this pricing difference might change once they find a good factory in Mexico or North America, but not yet apparently. If you are in Europe, I would recommend buying there rather than here, to save a little, plus you might be able to reclaim VAT so perhaps pay even less in the end...

    I will report on those details as soon as I have them.

    Cheers
     
  17. TauKappaEpsilon

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    Ordered a jacket from the new fall line (its the cotton-wool blend copenhagen fit) came in the mail on Friday:


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  18. CousinDonuts

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    The navy was 2nd. I got the standard issue charcoal first. No problems so far. They are holding up well.
     
  19. Quadcammer

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    you gonna wear that with your folex?
     
  20. razl

    razl Senior member

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    I'm ignoring the jacket to note that such an aggressive spread/cutaway collar doesn't look good on you here; the strong, almost horizontal line conflicts with your relatively thin/trim form and doesn't look harmonious. The jacket's trim cut exaggerates it in an unpleasing way.
     
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