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Suits Sucked in the 1990s

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by jrd617, Dec 18, 2010.

  1. Recoil

    Recoil Senior member

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    The suppressed waist makes it seem very modern but the cloth dates it somewhat. I definitely see what you mean about TF possibly selling something similar these days.
     
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    The suppressed waist makes it seem very modern but the cloth dates it somewhat. I definitely see what you mean about TF possibly selling something similar these days.
    Pray tell ... how does the cloth date it? I've seen similar cloth at Huntsman only recently. I also saw similar cloth decades ago.
     
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    I dont think there are classic designs. [​IMG] [​IMG] I love men's suits from the 20's. But if you were to wear this today SF would laugh at you.
    Eh? Apart from the done up bottom buttons SF would certainly not laugh at anyone dressed like that. In-fact, someone dressing like that would probably get considerable praise in WAYWRN.
     
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    It's clear that the "jackets as long as the sleeves" Thom Browne thing is very far from timeless, but what about today's mainstream which has taken an essentially timeless suit and slimmed it up. I could understand some future concessions to comfort (pleats mostly) but are suits going to be so baggy or wide lapelled that 2010 Tom Ford looks ridiculous in 2025? Please comment if you've been conscious of men's wear for over 30 years.
     
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    the 50's and 60's could easily be worn today: [​IMG] 70's werent bad: [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] 1986: I think we actually had this at an RL store last year. [​IMG] 89 [​IMG] 97 [​IMG]
     
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    It's clear that the "jackets as long as the sleeves" Thom Browne thing is very far from timeless, but what about today's mainstream which has taken an essentially timeless suit and slimmed it up. I could understand some future concessions to comfort (pleats mostly) but are suits going to be so baggy or wide lapelled that 2010 Tom Ford looks ridiculous in 2025? Please comment if you've been conscious of men's wear for over 30 years.

    I have not been conscious of menswear for more than 30 years, but the trouble is that RTW styles are ever changing. Did those '90s suits look so terrible or dated in the '90s? No, they looked perfectly modern. The lapels aren't particularly huge or small, and there's nothing really dramatically eyegrabbing about them. They are, even by modern standards, relatively conservative. But then RTW fashions changed, as fashion must, and now the '90s look rather silly.

    It is possible to find specimens of "timeless" suits, but they are the exception rather than the rule. And the RTW most likely to fit the mold also tends to be the most dowdy.
     
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    The nice thing about the 90s was that it was still easy to find forward-pleated trousers with a decent rise, though they were usually too baggy. Jacket were terrible, with a low gorge, low button stance, and jackets never had side vents. However, there were some great suits made by Polo Ralph Lauren (still in America) at the time.


    Not true about the jackets, especially the vents. I have RLPL, Brioni and Kiton suits and jackets from the '90s that have side vents. Except for pleated pants, the Kiton and Brioni suits look up to date. The RLPL from that period can have huge shoulders.

    As for Alec Baldwin, I think pastry happened to him.
     
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    WTF happened to Alec Baldwin?

    On the plus side, Ralph Fiennes looks much better with age.
     
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    Pray tell ... how does the cloth date it? I've seen similar cloth at Huntsman only recently. I also saw similar cloth decades ago.
    You ask me why I think the cloth dates it and then you tell me you saw a similar cloth decades ago? I think you have your answer.
     
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    You ask me why I think the cloth dates it and then you tell me you saw a similar cloth decades ago? I think you have your answer.
    I also saw classic navy decades ago. Your answer is a cop-out.
     
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    Does someone out there have a suit they bought 15 years ago that they still wear today? Of course you can alter it.
    Sort of. I've inherited several suits from my father (purchased about 15-25 years ago) and almost all of them have translated well into today's menswear "do's and dont's". He was really only buying conservative stuff at the time, so they've all held up nicely in relative terms of quality, style and fit.
     
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    My father's narrow ties in the 60s goes very well with the slim fit suits in H&M, Zara, etc. I looked at one and saw it was made by Arrow, and thought how I have only seen 3.5" from them now. My grandfather wants me to wear his bespoke from Hong Kong. He was born 1919. I haven't looked at his surviving collection but I am sure it will be on GQ in the next couple of decades.

    The thing is towards the late 1990s, a turtleneck and khakis and jacket was formal. 3 button suits that were preached to me then with a centre parted hair was a bit lost in the millennial dot com culture.
     
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    If you stick to moderation, it won't go out of style as quickly. But everything will look weird eventually, can't remember the last time I saw somebody casually wearing a tailed tuxedo.
     
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    Lots of SFers think they dress classically when they are simply following the current trend for very fitted garments.

    +1
     
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    The first suit that I bought myself was in 1993. It was bluish/green. Otherwise known as "teal".
     
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    I can't believe no one has pointed out this yet [​IMG] :

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