Suits in New York....where to go?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by John B, Apr 19, 2013.

  1. emiristol

    emiristol Senior member

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    What do you mean a "no brainer"? If you're getting Paul Stuart suits, you ought to take a look at their shoes too, or stop by one of the innumerable shoe stores around that area--I think Lobb, C&J, and Church's are all within walking distance from PS. Also, don't forget to stop by Leffot if you have the time.
     


  2. John B

    John B Active Member

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    Wow. I love these other suggestions. I'll certainly go to them all.

    I actually edited that part because I was thinking of Alden, not Allen Edmonds, although I believe they're both made in the U.S. which I like. I know Alden is.
     


  3. jeff13007

    jeff13007 Senior member

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    Lobb is in the 60's if i remember correctly, its past hermes on madison avenue on the way up. So i guess its "walking distance" for a New Yorker but for other people its a marathon lol
     


  4. John B

    John B Active Member

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    Actually, it looks like Lobb is a shorter walk from my home than from the 40s.

    But to your point, anywhere is walking distance if you have the time.
     
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  5. JayJay

    JayJay Senior member

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    I recommend going to the Isaia section at Saks for a suit and to Lobb for shoes. The Isaia guy at Saks is great to work with, and will have you looking sharp. A pair of JL's will complement your Isaia suit perfectly. It's my combo of choice nowadays. :satisfied:
     


  6. kennethpollock

    kennethpollock Senior member

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    1. LS Men's Clothing on 45th Street. Izzy will get an excellent H. Freeman MTM suit for you at 1/2 the price of a Samuelsohn from Paul Stuart; maybe 90% as good, but being MTM, it may fit better. You will have to wait a few weeks, but you will only pay $700 or thereabouts.
    2. Paul Stuart. You can get it off-the-rack if you are in more of a hurry. The prices are about 25% more than a regular $900-$1,100 Samuelsohn, but the material is more distinctive and of a higher quality.
    3. Brooks. If you have time, it will have Greenfield make you a MTM, but expect to pay a steep $2,200. The Golden Fleece line, made by Southwick but fully canvassed, is pretty good, but not quite up to Samuelsohn quality, IMO. About $1,800. I would avoid everything else at Brooks (much of which is also Southwick made) as they are all at least partly fused, except for the Chinese made and inexpensive BrooksCool line ($698). These are not bad, but I doubt their durabilty, as the material is very thin.
    4. J Press. I do not like its S. Cohen made suits. They are 1/2 canvassed and have too much shoulder. There are 6 large Canadian suitmakers, with Samuelsohn being the best of them and S. Cohen coming in last, IMO. I think that Southwick makes its top-line suits, but they are not like BB's Golden Fleece line and are no better than the mid-range 1/2 fused stuff from Brooks.
     


  7. msulinski

    msulinski Senior member

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    I've heard the J Press Cohen suits are fused. Also, everything at Paul Stuart is fully canvassed
     


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    1. H Freeman is an excellent choice
    2. If you have the time, or for the future,Winston Tailors (Chipp) off 5th. Ave
    specializes in the relaxed, understated , but elegant style that you seek.
    They only do MTM and Bespoke. Their quality is oustanding and their choice
    of fabrics is extensive. I am a former customer and would still use them if I stil
    got to New York regularly.

    http://local.yahoo.com/info-11081909-winston-tailors-chipp-new-york?viewtype=map
     


  9. envgeo

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    nevermind
     
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  10. doctorman

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    discussing the merits of those suits is a bit like debating if a lexus is better than a bmw or an audi vs an acura. the tie-breaker becomes the test drive - especially when you live walking distance away.

    since this is essentially your first real suit, i would suggest:

    1. can't go wrong with brooks golden fleece (fully canvassed and brooks has been having 20% - 25% sale periodically. with opening a credit card, that's another 15% off if you wish). my personal experience with their MTM line is that it's not cost-effective. it does adjust 1/8 of an inch here and there but for a much higher price, and it depends heavily on your body habitus. all their MTM is along the 1818 line. i wouldn't consider brookscool at all. not for your first suit anyway. it takes them about 2 weeks for basic tailoring but i'm sure you can squeeze a few days out of it. alternatively, if budget is an issue, i don't think it's a crime to get an 1818 as your first suit.

    2. you can't go wrong with paul stuart either, although PS is a notch higher at least in terms of pricing. if your budget only allows a low end PS, i'd rather go with a golden fleece.

    3. I particularly favor ralph lauren black label but they usually start at around 2g and sales have been hit and miss (25% off a few days ago). if you have a buddy that works for the corporate then you can get a 50% off. they're appropriately progressive and sharp but not as aggressive as suitsupply.

    4. H.Freeman confuses me since they have too many lines at too many different stores.

    5. j press is down right too conservative.

    finally - keep it simple. having too many choices for your first suit CAN confuse you . you are not expected to get it perfectly right the first time around anyway. good luck with the girl - i'm sure she will be far more impressed by your generosity to the charity and your gentlemanly sincerity than whatever suit you choose to wear.
     


  11. doctorman

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    in terms of shoes, i still swear by allen edmonds although there are many "better" shoes out there. they're having their 91st anniversary sale right now.

    if budget is no issue then you can walk into any store - alden, C&J, etc on madison and bring back whatever you like. if you want to save a few dollars, you can go try on a few pairs of AE - just to find out what lasts fit you the best and order the factory seconds from the freeport, maine store. i'm sure manager edward wickham will be careful to pick out a pair of seconds that look just like the firsts; i've had great experience there. they deliver quickly for free and you can return them to a local AE store or ship them back for free. you can't lose.
     


  12. taxgenius

    taxgenius Senior member

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    Name 1.
     


  13. fashionnoob

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    LOL WTF, isn't that combo like $4500?
     


  14. jeff13007

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    Hickey Freeman, Hickey, H. Freeman, Hickey Freeman Presidential. And these are ones I've just seen I'm sure there are others
     


  15. jeff13007

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    lol i was thinking the same thing, great recommendation but the suit alone is 1k over his budget
     


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