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Suit without tie rules and/or advices

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by sverige, Aug 20, 2014.

  1. sverige

    sverige New Member

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    Little background. I live in Sweden and started working in industrial engineering where suits are maybe slightly too much but acceptable, however tie would be definitely too much. I like wearing suits and would like to continue that tradition but without the tie

    What are your rules / advice on pulling off suit without tie at workplace?

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  2. p.henrik

    p.henrik Senior member

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    I hate it with a passion. Very common here in London in finance - navy or black(!) plain worsted suit with white shirt with cufflinks and black oxfords and no tie. If you want to wear tailored clothing without a tie, go with odd jacket and trousers and more casual shoes (brown). It's possible to pull off a suit without a tie, if it's on the very casual spectrum (linen, cotton), but not easy and most probably not suited for your industry. Stick with a sports coats if you want to wear tailored clothing.
     
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  3. 7_rocket

    7_rocket Senior member

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    Rules are mean't to be broken. Only on Styleforum people seem to object to not wearing a tie.

    I'd add a pocket square in there. There is nothing wrong with going tieless

    P.henrik did give you some good advice however.
     
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    Makoto Chan Senior member

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    Fuuma Senior member

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    Go air tie with a sleek suit.
     
  6. archibaldleach

    archibaldleach Senior member

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    +1. A suit is supposed to be on the more formal end of things (obviously excluding seldom worn black tie, morning dress, etc.), unless it is something casual like tan linen or seersucker. Wearing it without a tie just makes a mess of things.
     
  7. Skanstull

    Skanstull Well-Known Member

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    If you insist on using a suit without tie, try to keep down contrast by having a shirt with some pattern and/or colour. I agree with previous poster that wearing a solid navy or charcoal suit with a plain white shirt (which is also very common in Stockholm banking/legal) is terrible.
     
  8. TimelesStyle

    TimelesStyle Senior member

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    I feel like the suit w/o tie gets a bad rap because people tend to transition to the tieless look but using the same suits they've always worn. Seeing a guy in a slightly oversized charcoal suit with pleats and cuffs, an OCBD shirt and an undershirt peaking through the collar and associating that image with "suit without tie" is enough to turn anyone off to the look. And, similarly, the suits I'd wear without a tie aren't particularly appropriate for a business meeting in a conservative atmosphere.

    The fit, for me personally, will be different too. My go-to suits are RLBL and I'll buy a different size and tailor them differently if I plan to wear them with vs. without a tie. With a tie I'll buy a 42L and let out the trousers so they hang nicely when worn with braces. For without a tie, I'll buy a 42R and not let out the trousers so they stay up on their own w/o braces and appear more fitted around the seat. Might also have the trousers tapered a bit. I'll also go with different fabrics; I wouldn't do a chalk stripe or windowpane without a tie, but might do a light glen plaid or solid solid steel blue without a tie.

    If I weren't consistently buying the same cut of suit, I'd also choose softer shoulders and a slightly higher button stance for non-tie suits.

    This is an example of something I'd wear w/o a tie:

    http://www.ralphlauren.com/product/...&view=99&ab=ln_men_cs_suits&parentPage=family

    And here's one I'd only wear with a tie:

    http://www.ralphlauren.com/product/...&view=99&ab=ln_men_cs_suits&parentPage=family

    The shirts I'd wear with each would be different too. As has been suggested, small patterns are probably better than bangle stripes or solid broadcloths. Smaller collars, also, look a bit better without a tie. And please, no contrast collars or undershirts poking out.
     
  9. archibaldleach

    archibaldleach Senior member

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    ^ The suit sans tie issue is IMO mostly related to suits on the higher end of the formal / conservative spectrum. I see no issue with a lighter colored linen or seersucker suit sans tie or a casual houndstooth, Donegal or similar F/W suit. If everything in your outfits screams formal and you leave off the tie, it doesn't look good. If your outfit is not especially formal, then I think you are fine and essentially are in the odd jacket sans tie category.
     
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  10. Tried and True

    Tried and True Senior member

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    Just when I thought I'd heard it all........
     

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