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Suit Question Lanvin/SLP vs Sid Mashburn/ Freemans

Discussion in 'Menswear Advice' started by highcatcher91, Aug 13, 2016.

  1. highcatcher91

    highcatcher91 Well-Known Member

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    I have a fairly ignorant suit question as I am not very educated in the space. I understand fused, canvassed, half-canvassed etc but beyond that little else. I'm looking to get a basic navy and a basic grey suit and have come across well priced (discounted) Lanvin and SLP pairs. However - from the research I've done it seems mostly what I'm paying for is the name vs quality and craftsmanship. My alternatives here would be the standard suits from Sid Mashburn and Freemans which both seem to have gotten great reviews. As a note all 4 of these would be fully canvassed.

    So my question here is am I wrong that I'm mostly paying for the name and that the Sid/Freemans suits would be better? Anyone have insight into any of these 4 brands suits? There are some threads on all of these but they are fairly dated.
     


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    Murlsquirl The Moral Squirrel Dubiously Honored Moderator

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    Moving this to the Menswear Advice forum...

    To answer your question, yes. You're mostly paying for the brand. I do not own any Sid Mashburn or HF, but from what I've seen/heard, they are pretty good quality. How much are you looking to spend?
     


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    highcatcher91 Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for moving to the appropriate thread - by Freemans I meant freemans sporting club, not hickey freeman so should have been more clear. in terms of spend I'm looking in the $1000-2000 range.
     


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    Murlsquirl The Moral Squirrel Dubiously Honored Moderator

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    Gotcha. With that kind of budget, you really have a ton of options. We have a thread that is dedicated to creating a "quality list" that you might be interested in. The current list (it stays up to date with new makers), can be found here post #1341
     


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    With that kind of budget you could go to one of the less expensive bespoke houses and get a very nice suit made specifically for you. You could even go with Kent Wang MTM and probably spend much less than $2000 for two very nice suits which would exceed the quality of all those brands.
     


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    Terrible, Terrible advice. Once again...
    This guy is not an experienced suit buyer so to suggest bespoke is a tragedy.
    highcatcher91, since you are in NYC drop by the Armoury or Paul Stuart for advice, styling suggestions and good value. If you aren't happy then try other options. Just the fact that you have NY at your disposal is a huge advantage.
     


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    Actually bespoke is the best way to go for the inexperienced.
     


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    How, exactly?
     


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    I'm curious why you think this is bad advice. The only risks are finding a good tailor to work with, of which there are plenty in NYC and can be researched on the forum, and finding the time to go through the fitting process.

    A good tailor should be able to guide the client to a proper suit regardless of level of experience and knowledge.
     
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    Because a good bespoke tailor will be able to tell YOU what to look for in a well constructed, well fitting, suit. The fit will be made to your specific body measurements and adjusted, over several fittings, to your specific self. If you buy off the rack you will have to know exactly what fits you well, how it is to be altered, and what is and is not right for you with the specific brand. Talking to some sales rep may or may not yield good info. Talking to the actual damn tailor making your clothes usually will.
     


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    "actual damn tailor"

    I seem to have ruffled your Cardinal feathers.
     


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    He says he's new and is just trying to get some basic clarification. Before going to bespoke, you need to have some sort of indication of fit, style and fabric.
    There have been huge spoke mistakes made by different posters on this forum as evidence through several photos and diaries. Of course, there has been some great successes too.
    But for someone so new at this suiting game dear is too much risk to assume.
     


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    OK. You win.
     


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