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Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by redboat, Feb 12, 2013.

  1. redboat

    redboat Senior member

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    I need a suit for job interviews...I asked my tailor, who I later discovered is well regarded for his custom-made suits, which off-the-rack suits he likes, and he recommended J Crew. They are just a few blocks away here in San Francisco.

    The J Crew Ludlow suit in navy worsted wool with the slim fit pants looked really good on me. I'm on the skinny side (5' 10.5", 150 lbs) which might help. I don't know but the fit was very flattering, the color looked great on me, and the fabric had a nice hand.

    But the reviews on this site are so negative it makes me think twice. Can anyone recommend an alternative slim suit for under $700 that I can try on here in San Francisco? Really, you have to try it on don't you? I'm planning to have it fine tuned at my tailor after I buy it.
     


  2. sparrow

    sparrow Senior member

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    the most important part was that you said that it looked good on you.
    you can throw up fit pics.
    but if its good then get it.
    if you have a purple label suit but the fit sucks then its a waste. fit > construction.
     


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    Veremund Senior member

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  4. biged781

    biged781 Senior member

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    Did you tell your tailor what your budget was? That's the only reason I can think of as to why he would recommend J. Crew. People on this forum are not going to place J. Crew suits/odd jackets in high regard because they are not made to the standard that they are accustomed to. This forum is filled with people who have a taste for the finer things in life.

    However, if you find a well priced J. Crew suit which fits you well, why not? They aren't expensive (last I checked, $200-$400?), so in that price range you're not going to find much better without a little legwork. You can search outlets, Sierra Trading Post, ebay, and, of course, the B&S forum here for a better deal, but that will take more effort on your part and the possibility of buying something which doesn't fit you well.

    Take what you read here with a grain of salt. I've learned a lot (*a lot*) since I've started browsing these forums, but most people do not have thousands of dollars to spend on a beautifully crafted suit.

    And what Sparrow said.
     
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  5. Dempsy444

    Dempsy444 Senior member

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    I believe Hugo Boss makes some slim suits that are fairly well made for the price. You may be able to find them on sale now. Bloomingdales carries them and Boss has a store in the Westfield mall. One of my groomsman got a sharp slim fitting suit there for about $800.

    Zenga and Belvest are better but getting beyond your price point unless you find an amazing sale somewhere.

    Off the beaten path are a couple of stores that get designer stuff unloaded at a steep discount. There is Jerremy's on 2nd st, and Goodbyes on Sacramento St. You may get lucky and find even a Kiton or Brioni in your size there for $700.

    good luck.
     


  6. biged781

    biged781 Senior member

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    I would not say that Boss is a good value for the money unless you can get it at a steep discount.... in which case it is on par for the money. I do like their cut though.
     


  7. Dempsy444

    Dempsy444 Senior member

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    When a couple of my groomsman were shopping for suits, one was looking to spend less than a $1,000. I recall going to a number of stores and either seeing pretty frumpy suits for cheaper or suits that were just beyond that price, like Canali. Boss was the one brand that came out at under $1K and it was a nice cut overall. It was on sale and it wasn't the top of the line Boss.

    We never did try J. Crew though, or Banana for that matter.
     


  8. biged781

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    Yeah, I actually like some of their jackets, but you're paying for the name (at retail). Compare a Samuelsohn to an equally prices Boss jacket, no comparison in quality.
     
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  9. redboat

    redboat Senior member

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    Thanks for your reply. The J Crew suit retails for $650, but there are some sellers on this forum offering last year's version for $400 plus shipping - although there is of course more risk from buying from a stranger and not being able to return the item. A
     


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    Thanks. My tailor (Andreas Gorges in San Francisco) recommends J Crew over Boss for the quality of construction, although he likes the cut of both brands.
     


  11. dreamspace

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    Corneliani CC/Collection is a bit slim and more modern cut like HB and RLBL. Can be found for a pretty decent price(bought mine new with tags for 250$), especially on sales. Half-canvassed too IIRC...a bit softer shoulders than HB.
     


  12. red81

    red81 Senior member

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    those j.crew suits are great for the money. in that price range, i can't think of anything that's not just utter crap.

    also, have you thought about suit supply? they will ship up to 4 suits i believe, you get them pretty quick, try them on, return 3 and voila. (maybe pick two that you like, order one in your size and size up on one)
     


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    I don't know what biged is on about. I have never seen anyone here criticize the quality of J. Crew. The Ludlow is widely disliked because of its design - ultra skinny lapels, etc. J. Crew suits and odd jackets are widely regarded as being good value for the money, style issues aside. Take what biged says with a grain of salt. I've learned a lot (*a lot*) since I've started browsing these forums, but people who say SF craps on those who can't or won't spend big money on clothes are themselves completely full of shit.
     


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    There is no comparison between Samuelsohn and Boss. Sammys are true quality suits at reasonable prices. Boss is lower grade mass market. However as the owner of more than a dozen Boss suits and a handful of Sammy's I can say that even the slimmest Samuelsohn is cut very large and unflattering for slim/young fellas. I have 4 Sammy's that still have the store tags that are 2 years old simply because I realised that the others that were tailored are not giving the best silhouette. My cheap boss suits still get worn and many are over 5 years old. Most of these are very flattering and properly shaped and made with high grade cloths from respected mills.

    Alot of the regular posters here like the finer things in life as someone said above, but you will also notice a lot of them are not the slimmest guys around either. Fine things = fine food = storing more energy in your body. The higher grade suits have that in mind and tailoring these down to a true slim is a lot of delicate work and many alterations tailors seem unwilling to go the full route, always leaving the suits somewhat full.

    All that said I would certainly put Boss over JCrew but there is absolutely nothing wrong with Crew at the prices you mention. Go for the Crew and never look back. And remember take anything you read anywhere with a huge grain of salt that needs to be tested with personal experience. Always!
     
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  15. reidrothchild

    reidrothchild Senior member

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    To quote something I read at Put This On, "Good, Fast, Cheap: Pick Two." You may think the Ludlow is good, and it is unquestionably a fast option, but $650 for a fused (or maybe half canvas?) mall brand is not cheap. There are tons of better-made suits you can find in the price range on the internet; however, you won't have the benefit of trying on the suit to evalute fit and styling details. Hickey Freeman suits are all over the interwebz for under $700. While they are undboutedly made to a higher standard than a J Crew suit, who knows if you'll like the cut, buttoning stance, lapel width, etc. as much as the J. Crew? So maybe it's worth it to you to pay a premium for being able to try the suit on first. Best course of action--assuming you don't need a suit immediately--is to try as many different higher quality makers as possible to see which ones you prefer. Then try to find those on the internet, on sale, or at discount retailers in your price range. If you're set on buying J Crew, don't pay full retail. You'll probably only have to wait a month or so to get at least 30% off.
     


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