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Suit Jacket w/ Jeans

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by RST, Sep 1, 2006.

  1. LA Guy

    LA Guy Opposite Santa Staff Member Admin Moderator

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    We went to the launch party for Boston Common Magazine last November and two out three guys were wearing Navy Blazers, White shirt untucked, Jeans and probably awful footwear. I felt as though some alein space ship had land and spoiled what could have been a nice landscape. Although I like the look of a great sport jacket with the appropriate jeans, I think suit jackets are a definite Faux Pas. Gary
    In all fairness, Bostonians don't really have a strong tradition of the high/low concept, unlike, say L.A. or N.Y.C. I mean, when the owners of a store carrying some of the most expensive designerwear in the city (though not always the most tasteful) are photographed for the Improper Bostonian (the most prominent of the local free glossies) wearing blousy dress shirts, untucked, over ill fitting jeans (and I'm not talking antifit, just poorly fit) and shapeless looking sportscoats, what can you expect? Actually, for being a really casual city, Bostonians are not that great at dressing casually either. Walking around Cambridge, I sometimes think that your aliens must have abducted many people's wardrobes and replaced them with polar fleece. I own polar fleece, but I reserve my Northface gear for proper mountaineering and backpacking. I think that the sports jacket with jeans thing is best left to those able to fit into designers samples. However, if people insist on doing this look anyway, there are a few guidelines that should be followed. Otherwise, guys end up looking like they meant to wear a suit, but forgot their pants somewhere, and had to improvise. 1) The jacket should be trim, have a short skirt, and say, very clearly "I do not come with a suit". For this reason, moleskin, corduroy, twill, jackets are better than worsted wools or gabardines. 2) If at all possible, do not wear a button up shirt. Most guys either do not have the right type of shirt or right type of body. A tee-shirt or a hoodie, though both cliched at this point, are safer. If you must, however, wear a shirt, the shirt should be very fitted, and the hem should be short, just a little under the beltline. Ideally, if the shirt is a "dress shirt", it should be tucked into the jeans. But to do so and not look like an idiot requires that the guy doing this is pretty slim, that the guy is wearing a decent belt, and the the jeans are well fitting. Otherwise, a textured plaid shirt (like those the Engineered Garments of Band of Outsiders make), or a western or military styled shirt makes it very clear that the shirt is not a dress shirt. 3) The shoes should not be "dress shoes". A distressed pair of laceups is very popular right now, but chelsea or chukka boots always work well.
     
  2. whodini

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    2) If at all possible, do not wear a button up shirt. Most guys either do not have the right type of shirt or right type of body. A tee-shirt or a hoodie, though both cliched at this point, are safer. If you must, however, wear a shirt, the shirt should be very fitted, and the hem should be short, just a little under the beltline. Ideally, if the shirt is a "dress shirt", it should be tucked into the jeans. But to do so and not look like an idiot requires that the guy doing this is pretty slim, that the guy is wearing a decent belt, and the the jeans are well fitting. Otherwise, a textured plaid shirt (like those the Engineered Garments of Band of Outsiders make), or a western or military styled shirt makes it very clear that the shirt is not a dress shirt.


    I'd have to disagree here. Wearing just a t-shirt with my blazer makes me feel like Ryan Seacrest or any one of those posers and wearing a hoodie underneath makes me feel like Justin Timbersuck or anyone of those jerks that try too hard. Sure it may have been something when it all first began, but it's way too played out in my opinion. I think H&M was selling a blazer last summer with a removable hoodie attachment; that sealed it for me.

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    Laugh if you must but there's something simple and casual about that look.
     
  3. LA Guy

    LA Guy Opposite Santa Staff Member Admin Moderator

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    Laugh if you must but there's something simple and casual about that look.


    Actually, I don't know who does the wardrobing for "House", but he/she is good. Look at that jacket. It is deceptively slim. He never buttons up his jacket, but if he did, it would be tight. And it is short. I mean, even the way they have House sort of hunched over most of the time, the jacket ends just slightly below his wrists, just above the base of his thumb. If he were standing up straight, it would end at about his wrist. APC has jackets cut this way, and they look great with jeans.

    I guess that I missed the other way to wear a jacket with jeans (although I'm sure I wrote this up in the Streetwear & Denim forum sometime ago), which is to use a soft collared, slightly rumpled shirt, like those sold by Steven Alan. It can be a little relaxed around the body, but it must be short, short enough that the tails do not show under the jacket.
     
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    I don't think you can outright say that suit jackets can not be worn with jeans. Especially with more modern cuts i think it's more likely to work.

    Thats a very good point. The top half of an Oxxford, Brooks Bros, or Brioni suit will probably not look too hot with jeans. However, the jacket from a Jil Sander, Prada, Helmut Lang, Etro, or Costume National suit will look very nice due to the cut and structuring of the coat.
     
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    A year ago a suit jacket worn with pants would have raised my hackles. Now that I'm 35, at peace with the world and almost debt free, it doesn't bother me in the slightest. Hell, I do it myself now. How the mighty conservative have fallen.

    Now untucked non-squared off shirts...well, that's another thing all together [​IMG]
     
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    Actually, I don't know who does the wardrobing for "House", but he/she is good. Look at that jacket. It is deceptively slim. He never buttons up his jacket, but if he did, it would be tight. And it is short. I mean, even the way they have House sort of hunched over most of the time, the jacket ends just slightly below his wrists, just above the base of his thumb. If he were standing up straight, it would end at about his wrist. APC has jackets cut this way, and they look great with jeans.

    I guess that I missed the other way to wear a jacket with jeans (although I'm sure I wrote this up in the Streetwear & Denim forum sometime ago), which is to use a soft collared, slightly rumpled shirt, like those sold by Steven Alan. It can be a little relaxed around the body, but it must be short, short enough that the tails do not show under the jacket.

    Glad we could agree. When I go sifting for blazers, jackets, etc at thrift/vintage stores, I normally go a size small exactly for the fit of the sleeves since I never intend on buttoning up the jacket. I found an amazing western-style grey thin cord jacket off ebay for $5 that fits on me the same way that jacket looks on house. I'll post a pic sometime. Speaking of shorter jacket sleeves with longer shirts, I remember hearing something about how they dressed Brad Pitt in Ocean's 11 exactly the same way and how it caused a mini-trend.
     
  8. LA Guy

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    Glad we could agree. When I go sifting for blazers, jackets, etc at thrift/vintage stores, I normally go a size small exactly for the fit of the sleeves since I never intend on buttoning up the jacket. I found an amazing western-style grey thin cord jacket off ebay for $5 that fits on me the same way that jacket looks on house. I'll post a pic sometime.

    Speaking of shorter jacket sleeves with longer shirts, I remember hearing something about how they dressed Brad Pitt in Ocean's 11 exactly the same way and how it caused a mini-trend.


    I was actually talking about the skirt of the jacket, but the sleeves on House's jackets are usually pretty dead on as well. For some outfits. when House is wearing just the tee shirt, they are actually longer that normal.
     
  9. Dragon

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    Yeah, it looks OK.

    A sports jacket still looks much better with that type of look though. When you do it with a suit, it doesn`t quite look right and just looks like you tried.
     
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    it's part of house's look, though.

    Everyone else around him is in suits, whereas (assumedly due to his condition), he is unable to be constricted by suit pants, so he opts for jeans and sneakers! (often runners)
     
  11. Kent Wang

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    This jacket that AlanC is selling would be perfect with jeans.
     
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    it's part of house's look, though.

    Everyone else around him is in suits, whereas (assumedly due to his condition), he is unable to be constricted by suit pants, so he opts for jeans and sneakers! (often runners)


    I think it has very little to do with his condition and more to do with his general rebellious attitude. Tell House to treat a patient one way, he treats them another. Tell House to wear a lab coat, he ignores you. I'm sure the same is concerned when asked to dress professionally; he dresses how he wants to dress.

    I also think House's wardrobe works for him. Many here agree on the topic that wearing suit jackets with jeans looks like you're trying to hard; I disagree. If it works for you, it works for you. 99.9% of people don't give a damn if you wear a suit jacket or a sport coat with jeans. Arguably, wearing anything beyond your regular parka or zippered hoodie or jacket is going to show you have some style and give more than 2 cents about your appearance.

    And a side-note for House fans: SEASON PREMIERE TONIGHT ON FOX AT 8PM
     
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    And a side-note for House fans: SEASON PREMIERE TONIGHT ON FOX AT 8PM


    I'm all over it.
     
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    This jacket that AlanC is selling would be perfect with jeans.
    Would have loved to take a look at what it was but he took the pics down...
     
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    Reviving this thread...

    How well would a coat like this work with dark jeans - or are there better alternatives:

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    Why not? I do it all the time:

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    How about white jeans?

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  17. DirtyHarry

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    What I don't understand even more is people on here insisting to tuck in shirts with jeans, if you want to look 50 then maybe, otherwise just no.
     
  18. alliswell

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    Let me help you with that.

    What I don't understand even more is people on here insisting to not to tuck in shirts with jeans, if you want to look 5 then maybe, otherwise just no.

    It's as basic as wiping your nose.
     
  19. DirtyHarry

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    It can be as basic as it wants but it'll always look crap on most people.
     
  20. Holstein Bilter

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    It all depends on the blazer right?

    If the blazer is pretty formal looking, it doesn't mesh well w/jeans
    no matter how nice they are.

    But some blazers can play that dual role.

    I'm wearing a blazer, button shirt, jeans, and loafers today. It's a nice
    casual look
     

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