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Suit Fit? M2M Armani Collezioni

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by badger1, Nov 18, 2012.

  1. badger1

    badger1 Member

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    (Also posted this in the tailor's thread, but figured there would be more traffic in a new thread, also would like to get some non-tailor opinions)

    Could anyone give an opinion on the fit of this suit? It is a made-to-measure Armani Collezioni, size 38S. I am 38-39 in the chest and 29 in the waist. Around 5'9 and 150 lbs.

    I am quite disappointed in the fit, namely the creases around the back/neck region (along with the indented 'triangle' around the trapezius region), the baggy/non-trim look from the front, and the creases and wrinkling along the sleeve/shoulder area. It has been through a first set of alterations already with the back taken in through the middle and the waist taken in a bit. The sleeves are not finished yet. The next set of alterations is lowering the collar (I believe) and more waist suppression. Is this the correct way to go? What further adjustments are needed, or is this jacket too ill-fitting and beyond repair?

    Thanks! I apologize for rotated photos (don't know how to fix this despite multiple attempts)

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  2. mensimageconsultant

    mensimageconsultant Senior member

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    The shoulders probably need major reconstruction, best done by a master tailor. The very upright-seeming posture plus forward neck cause a slew of fit problems (and frankly it looks like a fitness issue). To fix everything will be costly, but due to the first set of alterations, the suit cannot be returned and likely would be hard to sell. Since it's made-to-measure, maybe you should request a remake instead of more alterations, but the body type probably would never go well with the patterns used, regardless of the quality of measurements taken.
     
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  3. othertravel

    othertravel Senior member

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    Not entirely true; depending on where he got it from, he can get a refund or exchange. Where did you buy it from?

    I think you should ask for a refund.
     


  4. badger1

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    Thanks for the replies everyone. I got the suit from a relatively higher-end men's clothing chain store in Canada. I rather not name it at this point in time but I'm sure many of you can guess where. I have low expectations for when I try on the suit again after yet another set of alterations, but will see how it goes. The refund route seems likely.

    mensimageconsultant: I have a hunched over posture I know, just wondering what you meant by a "fitness issue"? Should I work out more?
     
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  5. othertravel

    othertravel Senior member

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    I'm guessing Harry Rosen?
     


  6. Cant kill da Rooster

    Cant kill da Rooster Senior member

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    I wouldn't be surprised. I have had issues with their tailoring, mostly because it's the sales people that mark the adjustments.
     


  7. wumingde

    wumingde Well-Known Member

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    The suit is a mess. Judging from the wrinkling in the sleeves and back, it's probably beyond repair unless done by a exceptional tailor. I think asking for a remake or refund would be the best choice here, if possible.
     


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    JubeiSpiegel Senior member

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    I have not seen a Collezioni suit with such stacked shoulders, they usually have a nice downward slope. Did they compensate with extra padding on the shoulders by chance? The back looks like they left the hanger on when they had you try it on. A refund would be in order i think... :confused:
     


  9. mensimageconsultant

    mensimageconsultant Senior member

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    Yes. For example, judging by the suit shoulders, the shoulders underneath are small. Also, just noticed the left shoulder looks much higher than the right shoulder; if that's accurate, then it is another reason to improve fitness.
     


  10. badger1

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    Thanks for the clarification. Actually, my shoulders are not small at all, they are quite broad; if anything, I would want them smaller so I can fit into jackets easier! I don't think any exercise would correct the imbalance between the right and left sides, but if you can suggest anything I am all ears.
     


  11. mensimageconsultant

    mensimageconsultant Senior member

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    The rear deltoids look underdeveloped, but that could be due to the photography, posture, or sloppy jacket shoulder construction.

    Ask a trainer or physical therapist about how to specifically level out the shoulders..
     


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