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Suit and Sneakers - Do's and Dont's

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by sonic, Oct 17, 2006.

  1. lawyerdad

    lawyerdad Senior member

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    If you do something like this because you want to come across as a devil-may-care maverick - you ain't one. You'll just end up looking like a poser.
    If you want to wear a Davy Crockett coonskin hat with your suit because you love the hat and don't give a damn if other people think it looks stupid, then more power to you. If you do something that you saw Aston Krutcher or Kevin Federline do on E!Television and want to copy it, you're not a maverick.
    And while I suppose there may be exceptions, if you're posting here first to see if people think it's cool or lame, chances are pretty good that you're no maverick.
    But to echo most other folks: for yourself, wear what you like and don't sweat what other people (including me, obviously) think. For somebody else's wedding, dress to show respect for them and for the occasion, not to entertain yourself.
     
  2. GQgeek

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    I think y'all are being a bit too dogmatic. There is nothing inherently wrong with wearing a sneaker with a suit. It could work with the right sneaker and the right cut of suit. Obviously nothing white, and nothing that's clunky. But a trim leather lace up could look right with a relatively casual suit.

    But not at a wedding.


    And no, we aren't. There is absolutely no circumstance under which sneakers would look better with a suit than a proper pair of dress shoes, whether they be oxfords, loafers, or monks. The question then becomes "why would you?" If it's just to stand out, then you should know that you won't be standing-out in a positive way. You'll just be showcasing your bad taste.

    The good news is that the OP seems to have come to the conclusion that he should avoid that particular look.
     
  3. sonic

    sonic Member

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    ok LawyerDad
    i hope writing this post didnt take time away from quoting your salary to 19 yo girls at a local watering hole.. but yes.. its been said 20 times already that this is not approprate at a wedding i conceded that it was a "disaster of an idea" 10 posts ago.
    i do not have cable nor do i watch tv at all, and it took me a while to even figure out who that 2nd name you mentioned is... but certainly i've seen this style semewhere, and much like most of the people here creativity is choosing something we've seen in the past that most appeals to us. being that i am not a fashion guru I wouldnt want to disrespect the sanctity of someone's ceremony which is why i posted here in first place.
    please feel free to repeat what was said one more time and by all means re-evaulate my originality
     
  4. thinman

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    See, you're not that old :p I'm surprised they still make shoes with tassels. I just can't understand the man who buys them. Actually, it's probably the same guy that wears spandex to the gym.

    I'm young at heart (29 to be exact....for the 17th(?) time).
     
  5. lawyerdad

    lawyerdad Senior member

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    ok LawyerDad
    i hope writing this post didnt take time away from quoting your salary to 19 yo girls at a local watering hole.. but yes.. its been said 20 times already that this is not approprate at a wedding i conceded that it was a "disaster of an idea" 10 posts ago.
    i do not have cable nor do i watch tv at all, and it took me a while to even figure out who that 2nd name you mentioned is... but certainly i've seen this style semewhere, and much like most of the people here creativity is choosing something we've seen in the past that most appeals to us. being that i am not a fashion guru I wouldnt want to disrespect the sanctity of someone's ceremony which is why i posted here in first place.
    please feel free to repeat what was said one more time and by all means re-evaulate my originality

    Dude, chill out. You solicited opinions. If you didn't want them you shouldn't have asked. The E!Television comment was obviously - at least I had intended it to be obvious - tongue-in-cheek. The "yous" in the post were intended to be generic, not specific to you. And I don't need to quote my salary to the 19-year-olds - one look at my fine threads is enough to do the trick.
     
  6. gorgekko

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    I'd say impossible. If you showed up to my wedding wearing sneakers, I'd promptly have one of my goon brothers take them off your feet and beat you over the head with them. I never understood why everyone who wants to be a clothing maverick, chooses to disobey the rules only when it comes time to dress up. You want to be a maverick, wear a three piece suit to your next basketball pick up game or wear some nice wingtips with your cargo shorts.
    I agree with every word you wrote.
    There is nothing inherently wrong with wearing a sneaker with a suit.
    Sir, you do harm to the notion of being well-dressed, whether formally or casually.
     
  7. Tomasso

    Tomasso Senior member

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    ok LawyerDad
    i hope writing this post didnt take time away from quoting your salary to 19 yo girls at a local watering hole..


    Sonic, have you been getting c-blocked by geezers lately. Sorry, but the chicks dig the cheese, not cheesy dressers.[​IMG]
     
  8. acidboy

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    ok LawyerDad i hope writing this post didnt take time away from quoting your salary to 19 yo girls at a local watering hole.. but yes.. its been said 20 times already that this is not approprate at a wedding i conceded that it was a "disaster of an idea" 10 posts ago. i do not have cable nor do i watch tv at all, and it took me a while to even figure out who that 2nd name you mentioned is... but certainly i've seen this style semewhere, and much like most of the people here creativity is choosing something we've seen in the past that most appeals to us. being that i am not a fashion guru I wouldnt want to disrespect the sanctity of someone's ceremony which is why i posted here in first place. please feel free to repeat what was said one more time and by all means re-evaulate my originality
    hey, you asked for opinions, right? if you wanted affirmation then you should've said so in the first place. i totally agree with lawyerdad's opinion. that look has been played out since even before chevy chase donned that look in the first few years of saturday night live. take every consideration away and the suit with sneaks looks is just way too deliberate to be considered in the "devil may care" attitude category. k-fed, anybody? [​IMG] btw, which name you said it took you a while to figure out? davy crockett? i sure hope not. heck, i live in se asia and i sure know who davy crockett is! he is one of the founding pioneers of crockett and jones!!! [​IMG]
     
  9. acidboy

    acidboy Senior member

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    ok LawyerDad
    i hope writing this post didnt take time away from quoting your salary to 19 yo girls at a local watering hole.. but yes.. its been said 20 times already that this is not approprate at a wedding i conceded that it was a "disaster of an idea" 10 posts ago.



    OH, and btw, i am not speaking for lawyerdad, but i think this kind of insult is highly inappropriate and uncouth. this is uncalled for, imo specially in a forum like this. lawyerdad has done nothing to deserve an insulting response like this. i hope someone apologizes soon!
     
  10. Bob Loblaw

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    Again, I am a newbie to fashion, but being that i am young and like this whole maverick breaking-the-rules be-different outlook on life, the suit with sneakers look kinda appeals to me...

    the question is, when to wear it.. tie or no tie.. could this somehow fly at a wedding... and what kind of suit works well with this approach.. i wouldnt want to commit any faut pas.. [​IMG]


    I would spend time learning and applying to rules of good style first before you go off shattering paradigms and such. Philip Glass, Ligeti, Kraftwerk, and Cage were classically trained musicians before they set off on their own distinctive experimental, ground breaking styles in music - you might want to apply similar methodolgy to develop your style. Otherwise you will come across as the sartorial equivalent of a 4 year old beating on a casio.

    Trust me on this. I once thought I looked smashing weaing combat boots with a suit.
     
  11. epa

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    I would spend time learning and applying to rules of good style first before you go off shattering paradigms and such. Philip Glass, Ligeti, Kraftwerk, and Cage were classically trained musicians before they set off on their own distinctive experimental, ground breaking styles in music - you might want to apply similar methodolgy to develop your style. Otherwise you will come across as the sartorial equivalent of a 4 year old beating on a casio.

    Trust me on this. I once thought I looked smashing weaing combat boots with a suit.

    I totally agree!
     
  12. macuser3of5

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    A voice from another younger dude (23): No. I understand the result you're trying to accomplish, but sneakers are not the right way, my friend. They just aren't slick enough of a silhouette to cap off the bottom of a suit. Stick with dressier shoes and/or boots, and play with contrast (black suit with white shoes) and/or color. You will definitely stand out, possibly look affected, but you won't look like a child borrowing your older brother's suit and you won't look like a tool. Subtle, but important, difference. [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
  13. Mentos

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    Sir, you do harm to the notion of being well-dressed, whether formally or casually.
    Respectfully disagree. A pair of leather tods or prada lace-ups are as appropriate in certain situations as monks. Where one goes astray is trying to pull together a formal business look with a pair of sneakers. That obviously is impossible. The below isn't a great example because the shoe is a bit busy, but you can see what I'm getting at.
    [​IMG]
     
  14. epa

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    Respectfully disagree. A pair of leather tods or prada lace-ups are as appropriate in certain situations as monks. Where one goes astray is trying to pull together a formal business look with a pair of sneakers. That obviously is impossible.

    The below isn't a great example because the shoe is a bit busy, but you can see what I'm getting at.

    Do you really think that these sneakers would look great with a suit?
    I personally like this kind of leather sneakers a lot, I have some similar ones (however, a bit lower down on the price and quality scale, mine are from Bally, Ferragamo and Boss) and I find them much more comfortable than dress shoes. However, I would feel strange wearing them with a suit (except for, maybe, with a more casual cotton or linen suit sans tie in summer; should I give it a try or would it just look ritardato?).

    I sometimes wear this type of leather sneakers with an odd jacket (sans tie) and jeans or similar; I personally like it, but I may just look like a jerk to others. What do you think?
     
  15. Bandwagonesque

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    The below isn't a great example because the shoe is a bit busy, but you can see what I'm getting at.

    They remind me of these brown leather sneakers a friend of mine wore with a black suit one day to the office. When I called him on it (not just the sneakers, but the brown shoes + black suit), he said "yeah, but they match my brown belt!" [​IMG]
     
  16. Mentos

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    They remind me of these brown leather sneakers a friend of mine wore with a black suit one day to the office. When I called him on it (not just the sneakers, but the brown shoes + black suit), he said "yeah, but they match my brown belt!" [​IMG]
    Well, I can't very well defend that!
     

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