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Suggestions for high quality office clothes for women?

Discussion in 'Menswear Advice' started by IHaveNoNiceClothes, Oct 30, 2017.

  1. jaxenro

    jaxenro Senior Member

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    I don’t think that’s dumb at all. Their ads are designed to reflect their “vibe” as you term it and if it doesn’t fit with who you are you probably won’t be happy with them. They might be a good cut and decent quality but still not be “you” if that makes sense.

    Red Fleece does have a bit of a preppy feel but I think it replaced the old University line which was also a bit preppy. B.B. helped invent preppy when they had stores st the Ivy League schools
     


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  3. IHaveNoNiceClothes

    IHaveNoNiceClothes Active Member

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    Thank you for this! I didn't know that they had women's professional wear. My local Nordstroms stocks what I would term "wedding guest/fancy garden party dresses" from Ted Baker. Not exactly office wear, but also not exactly slinky cocktail or dinner party attire either. I've always have loved their designs, especially floral patterns. At a quick glance, I love what I'm seeing and prices are not as high as I would have expected. Will definitely take a look.

    Edit: A little disappointed that their offerings (at least all the ones that I clicked on) appear to be made of primarily synthetic materials. I am in love with the scalloped edges, so may order a blazer anyways.

    Edit2: There is one wool blazer.

    Edit2: I was about to buy the shit out of that wool blazer, but noticed that (extremely annoyingly) the matching dress pants to the wool blazer has a weird front notch at the bottom of the legs. I'm not the most trendy person and this irritates me unreasonably.
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  4. breakaway01

    breakaway01 Distinguished Member

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    There have certainly been a number of SF posters who have expressed discomfort over SuitSupply's current and previous marketing campaigns. Personally I am not a fan either, but it hasn't stopped me from purchasing a couple of items from them. It looks like SuiStudio sells their suits as separates, which is something that SuitSupply does not do!
     


  5. IHaveNoNiceClothes

    IHaveNoNiceClothes Active Member

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    You're right. Beggars cannot be choosers, and I am definitely a beggar in terms of flailing around for suitable women's attire. I am motivated to try them again :)

    I took a look again at their website over lunch and recalled what was the issue that I had with their pants:

    https://us.suistudio.com/en_US/l_suits/cameron-grey-suit/LPC0248-S.html?cgid=L_Suits

    Scroll down and take a look at the video of the model wearing the grey suit. I had the same bunching in the crotch area even when I changed the sizes (4R and 6R). And those creases don't go away after even when I stand straight, which makes for a very unattractive look throughout the day. Is it a hip issue? Should I go up to 8? I'd love to figure that out before I order something again.
     
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  6. breakaway01

    breakaway01 Distinguished Member

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    Yes, it looks like the horizontal lines are caused by excessive tightness across the hips. You could consider going up one more size so that the hips fit and then having the trousers altered to take in the waist. I know that many women are not used to having tailored clothes altered, but IMO this is often necessary for off the rack clothing and well worth the trouble.
     


  7. IHaveNoNiceClothes

    IHaveNoNiceClothes Active Member

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    I contacted Suistudio yesterday evening and had the following conversation with their customer service. I'm very impressed with the promptness of their responses although I remain a little confused about the proper material (is wool better than mohair & wool blend? Does the mill where the wool was made matter? why is black the best?):


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  8. breakaway01

    breakaway01 Distinguished Member

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    All of the SuitSupply suits are made in China, though that shouldn't necessarily put you off. The quality of the construction is really quite good for the price point.

    Fabric is a very long discussion as you can imagine. There is a huge thread on SF just on cloth. Yes, the mill does matter, but VBC (as an example) makes a wide variety of fabrics at different price points (and quality). It is very likely that these fabrics were made specially for Suitsupply/SuiStudio at a negotiated price point. In general, go for 100% wool if you are not sure. "Traveler" fabrics are usually made of high-twist yarns that add wrinkle resistance. Wool/mohair blends also tend to be wrinkle-resistant but at high mohair content the fabric can have a bit of a sheen (whether that is desirable is up to you).
     


  9. IHaveNoNiceClothes

    IHaveNoNiceClothes Active Member

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    Update: I still have not yet received my order from BB yet. I checked today and apparently they haven't even shipped it yet. The Cotton Pique dress is ETA April 7... sigh.

    In other news, they updated their inventory to include a solid navy zac posen designed suit (with *GASP* matching slim fit pants AND skirt!!!). Needless to say I'm over the moon.

    Fingers crossed for this new navy lovely:
    https://www.brooksbrothers.com/Wool...____NAVY_06_______,default,pd.html?Quantity=1

    Matching pants
    https://www.brooksbrothers.com/Wool...____NAVY_06_______,default,pd.html?Quantity=1

    Matching skirt
    http://www.brooksbrothers.com/Wool-...ar_WL00241_Color=NAVY&contentpos=23&cgid=0374

    100% Italian Wool, Made in Portugal. Fetch the smelling salts, I can't tell if I'm about to faint or orgasm.
     
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  10. IHaveNoNiceClothes

    IHaveNoNiceClothes Active Member

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    Update (review of the solid navy Zac Posen suit mentioned in the post above, which I was REALLY REALLY excited about):

    My local BB had the blazer and the pants in stock, although only the pants in my size, blazer one size smaller. I went over during lunch to check it out. I took some pictures, both items are a matching dark solid navy, although the lighting makes it appear black at times.

    So, first some confusion over whether I was being shown the right items. The online page clearly says it's made in Portugal, but both tags on the pants and blazer say "Made in China." I had the sales person helping me double check, and he said it was an error with their website.

    The pants actually fit decently and most importantly were a tapered slim pant, rather than BB's 2-3 years ago which had the dreaded (for me at least) bootcut dress pants. Seriously. I'm an office worker not a cowboy, I do not need the extra flare.

    But I digress - here is a picture of the seams, which look more like the seams on my Ann Taylor pants (which I happened to be wearing today) rather than my Paul Stuart pants, which do not have a single loose thread anywhere.


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  11. IHaveNoNiceClothes

    IHaveNoNiceClothes Active Member

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    The blazer (again, this is actually a dark navy, but the dressing room had horribly harsh overhead lighting that emphasized shadows and made pictures hard to take).

    Coming off the rack it looked a little.. not exactly "worn" but something about both the fabric and stitching just didn't look as sleek as some of BB's offers do. Maybe it's the drape? Type of fabric? I don't know, it just didn't lie flat even on the hanger, and the stitching on the lapels looked slightly puckered/wrinkly. It looked even worse after I tried it on (anyways, it was a little small so I didn't take pictures of it on me). See comparison below with the BB Loro Piana two button blazer.

    The blazer is fully lined and the seams look much better than the pants, no loose threads etc.

    Edit: The front breast pocket is fake.

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  12. IHaveNoNiceClothes

    IHaveNoNiceClothes Active Member

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    For comparison, the BB Loro Piana Two Button Wool Blazer. Admittedly more expensive by $100. To be fair to both, I also selected one size smaller than what I usually wear. After some trying out and manipulation to take photos, I put it back on the hanger and snapped this photo. Even though it fit me more snugly and I exposed it to greater stress and movement than the other one, as you can see, it looks much more sleek - flaps stay down and fairly even. It also has this stitching on the lapels, but the stitching doesn't look puckered at all.

    I would definitely purchase this latter blazer if I could find corresponding pants. The ones hanging by it at the store that looked like the proper matching pants were the dreaded "boot cut" (again, seriously?!")

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  13. jaxenro

    jaxenro Senior Member

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    Ah the BB Loro Piana Wool Blazer. I have four or five of them, they are easily my favorites by far, but I wear them with charcoal or gray wool trousers or even white linen or cotton. I have never worn them with matching pants though but I suppose for women it's different. Most often I wear with a mid gray flannel pant, white button down shirt, black loafers, and a repp tie.
     


  14. IHaveNoNiceClothes

    IHaveNoNiceClothes Active Member

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    I can never quite figure out the mix and match - actually I don't even know which jackets are clearly for matching suits and which ones are more flexible unless they are clearly a sports jacket or hacking jacket with a loud pattern or in some unusual color.

    My current goal is to find two matching suits of navy and charcoal, or navy and black. Will try suisupply again and an online women's professional clothing store called "Of Mercer" next. The latter looks so promising that I'm afraid to get my hopes up in case it's all some clever marketing scheme

    Edit: Maybe the gold buttons should have tipped me off...
     
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  15. jaxenro

    jaxenro Senior Member

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    On a men’s metal button navy blazer you don’t wear navy or black pants I don’t know about a women’s. In fact I don’t think they make matching pants unless one is actually in the navy. But it’s sort of a classic men’s look.

    The whole women’s business suit thing sort of baffles me as it seems the goal is to look like a traditional men’s business suit without looking like a traditional men’s business suit. To me, and it’s probably just me, they therefore have a bit of awkwardness about the design as they aren’t sure if their fish or fowl and try to be a bit of both. Male and traditional and yet still feminine. But my ideas are a bit antiquated anyway
     


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