Shoreman with your new avatar I somehow doubt your management skills (to get the whole group order thingy going strong) more than with the pink dinosaur in the classroom. Lolwut?! Now back to teh serious bizz that is the internets and clothing, Shoreman when do you expect the samples to arrive? Are you convinced Centralia was on to something when they thought we ordered a jacketsize too small? They do cut an atlethic style jacket right, not overly slimfitting. We'll just have to wait for the samples to arrive. Good work Shoreman. thanks.