Striped bespoke odd jacket, would you or wouldn't you?

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  1. Jovan

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    Well, maybe. I still say it's best to get a tweed herringbone if you're going for patterns on sportcoats.
     
  2. LabelKing

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    I've always thought striped odd things worked better as trousers, opposed to jackets.
     
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    Looks odd to me... I have a sports jacket striped, but I never ever use it.

    Every time I put it on, when passing through my doorway I see myself on the fullbody mirror... and I come back and pick another jacket.... Just looks like I am wearing an incomplete suit.
     
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    By the way... $1000 for pants ? I know the prices in the US and Europe are higher...

    But when I was in Peru once, I made to myself a bespoke suit using Italian 120's wool that you can buy there and made it really bespoke ( night blue, 3 piece, shorter jacket, 5 button working sleeves, slim fitted ) ... cost was $100 wool $150 labor.... incredible huh ?

    True... in Peru they have a different construction method as in London or Italy, they use a thermical fused inside layer, because the people there perceives a suit as good when is more rigid and doesn't wrinkle... In Italy the suits are soft and doen't wrinkle because of the quality of the fabric....

    So I made the taylor make me the suit as an Italian one ( I gave him one to copy it ... ) he was telling me at the beginning... "This suit doesn't have the thermical layer... mmm it will wrinkle and you'd be able to see the creases ... " So I just told him to make it that way, without the rigid inner layer...

    The result was a wonderful bespoke suit... for only $250 !!!!

    I made me another using a heavy flanel gray herringbone tweed, but I gave it to another taylor with same instructions and the results were not great... I imagine this is because of the fabric... this tweed fabric was cheaper.. some $60, and hadn't the quality for that kind of construction i guess...

    Anyway... at $250 a 120's bespoke, you could pay the flight ticket, have the suit made, and visit macchu picchu for the same price you'd pay in NYC [​IMG]
     
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    You've posted this before, but I don't think he pulls it off.
     
  7. Joel_Cairo

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    By the way... $1000 for pants ? I know the prices in the US and Europe are higher...

    But when I was in Peru once, I made to myself a bespoke suit using Italian 120's wool that you can buy there and made it really bespoke ( night blue, 3 piece, shorter jacket, 5 button working sleeves, slim fitted ) ... cost was $100 wool $150 labor.... incredible huh ?

    True... in Peru they have a different construction method as in London or Italy, they use a thermical fused inside layer, because the people there perceives a suit as good when is more rigid and doesn't wrinkle... In Italy the suits are soft and doen't wrinkle because of the quality of the fabric....

    So I made the taylor make me the suit as an Italian one ( I gave him one to copy it ... ) he was telling me at the beginning... "This suit doesn't have the thermical layer... mmm it will wrinkle and you'd be able to see the creases ... " So I just told him to make it that way, without the rigid inner layer...

    The result was a wonderful bespoke suit... for only $250 !!!!

    I made me another using a heavy flanel gray herringbone tweed, but I gave it to another taylor with same instructions and the results were not great... I imagine this is because of the fabric... this tweed fabric was cheaper.. some $60, and hadn't the quality for that kind of construction i guess...

    Anyway... at $250 a 120's bespoke, you could pay the flight ticket, have the suit made, and visit macchu picchu for the same price you'd pay in NYC [​IMG]


    wow. I need to book a flight to Lima ASAP.
     
  8. DGP

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    Here is what it would come down to for me, and this may seem strange: How odd is the rest of your wardrobe? If the rest is relatively plain, then I'd say it will look off. Like if you wear it with plain gray pants, a white shirt and a striped tie. However, if your closet is full of oddly checked and striped pants, as well as a variety of patterns on your shirts and unusual ties, then I think it would be perfect, provided you put them together in a way that just works, and have the right patterns to do that on this jacket. Otherwise, get the suit. Oh, and another thing to keep it from looking like it was supposed to be part of a suit is to play around with more interesting buttons, just a thought.
     
  9. summej2

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    Yes, I once saw a beautiful herringbone jacket with stripes. However, I think that a striped sportjacket is really a novelty piece and one that I would not buy unless I had no need for anything else.

    Gary Cooper is wearing a similar jacket with wide-spaced stripes in a couple of the photos in Dressing the Man. It looks rather good on him.
     
  10. GQgeek

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    Here is what it would come down to for me, and this may seem strange: How odd is the rest of your wardrobe? If the rest is relatively plain, then I'd say it will look off. Like if you wear it with plain gray pants, a white shirt and a striped tie. However, if your closet is full of oddly checked and striped pants, as well as a variety of patterns on your shirts and unusual ties, then I think it would be perfect, provided you put them together in a way that just works, and have the right patterns to do that on this jacket. Otherwise, get the suit. Oh, and another thing to keep it from looking like it was supposed to be part of a suit is to play around with more interesting buttons, just a thought.

    My jackets so far all have blue in them and that's why i'm trying to do something different. Brown looks really good on me so it's just a question of finding the right fabric. This was a truely gorgeous fabric but now that i've slept on it I think I've decided against it. As much as I'd love go get this suit made, it's a poor use of the money at this point since there are still major holes in my wardrobe. I might however buy the fabric to be made in to a suit at a later date and do something else for now. It's in the Propsta book so there's no guarantee that it will be produced again after it runs out... Anyway thanks for the opinions guys. I have an impulsive streak that needs to go :p
     
  11. AlanC

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    I think you're unsure enough about it that I wouldn't spend that much. If you went in with a specific plan for a striped odd jacket like you're describing with complete confidence that that's what you wanted it would be a different thing. But you're not sure, so unless you've just go money to burn on an experiment (which you don't or you wouldn't be interested in locking in prices before the increase) then I would either a) get the trousers, too, and bespeak a suit or, b) absorb the cost of the fabric (if it's already ordered), and move on to something else entirely (you could sell the fabric on ebay, etc. if you desired). That's better than getting a bespoke jacket and worrying about it when it ought to be a process that give you joy and fills a need.
     
  12. itsstillmatt

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    I'm not a huge fan of them I guess.
    Perhaps when you are older...
     
  13. whoopee

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    I would go as far as to say that the majority of handsome checks and windowpanes look more appropriate odd than as part of a suit.

    As for the original question, sounds like there are ebtter choices.
     
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    That one just doesn't do it for me...it just looks like an orphaned suit coat to me.
     
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    That one just doesn't do it for me...it just looks like an orphaned suit coat to me.

    I agree.

    And to the OP, it seems as though your uncertainty results from not seeing the fabric. Perhaps once you've seen the actual fabric you can make a more informed decision?
     

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