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Couldn't agree more. Brown shoes can be lovely, but black is a safer choice in many circumstances IMO. A well shined pair can also be extremely sleek and elegant and I tend to like them better in the evening (I am not going to put on a suit and tie to grab a burger and beer at my local pub). I understand the love of brown shoes on this forum, but I think many people here overrate them compared to black shoes.


couldn't disagree more. Black shoes suck all the time. They are lifeless and boring.

For every situation where a black shoe works well (excluding black tie and funerals), a brown shoe looks better. If you are wearing decent brown shoes, there is no issue of safer.
 

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I have totally converted from the chisel toe to the round toe.

In fact, I have a pair of U-last Vass that I need to sell.


The U-last is right where "too sleek" begins for my preference.

I like oxfords with dress trousers and above, and reserve derbys for casual wear.
 

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For every situation where a black shoe works well (excluding black tie and funerals), a brown shoe looks better. If you are wearing decent brown shoes, there is no issue of safer.


incorrect, not in the case of UCBD.
 

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incorrect, not in the case of UCBD.


bull.

I don't care what board room, law firm, or investment bank you are in, no one will give a rats ass if you walk in with a well fitted gray or navy suit and dark brown captoe oxfords. no one will say anything, no one will berate you, in fact, you'd probably get compliments, i know I have.

if you walk in there with for instance Walnut strands on, yeah, you may raise a few eyebrows.
 

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bull.

I don't care what board room, law firm, or investment bank you are in, no one will give a rats ass if you walk in with a well fitted gray or navy suit and dark brown captoe oxfords. no one will say anything, no one will berate you, in fact, you'd probably get compliments, i know I have.

if you walk in there with for instance Walnut strands on, yeah, you may raise a few eyebrows.


From a practical perspective, I think you're probably right and it may not matter in many cases if black is seen as slightly more conservative. That said, black shoes are still more conservative, and for this reason slightly safer, IMO. This doesn't mean brown shoes are wrong or that I would have an issue wearing them in a formal business setting with a suit, just that they're not quite the ne plus ultra of conservative footwear.
 

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bull.

I don't care what board room, law firm, or investment bank you are in, no one will give a rats ass if you walk in with a well fitted gray or navy suit and dark brown captoe oxfords. no one will say anything, no one will berate you, in fact, you'd probably get compliments, i know I have.

if you walk in there with for instance Walnut strands on, yeah, you may raise a few eyebrows.


I partially agree. Most of the time, no one will really notice. For a counterexample however, a friend of mine works at Nationwide Insurance and he really thinks brown has no place in a business environment. He thinks shoes should always be black. Also, please do not take this out of context, whether or not I agree with him or whether or not he has good taste is debatable. I am simply providing an example of an average guy who would disagree, and hence he cannot be alone in this thought. That said, I would argue that anyone who disagrees is still like not to say anything or berate you, but they will quietly think you have made an error.
 

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From a practical perspective, I think you're probably right and it may not matter in many cases if black is seen as slightly more conservative. That said, black shoes are still more conservative, and for this reason slightly safer, IMO. This doesn't mean brown shoes are wrong or that I would have an issue wearing them in a formal business setting with a suit, just that they're not quite the ne plus ultra of conservative footwear.


AGREED
 

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From a practical perspective, I think you're probably right and it may not matter in many cases if black is seen as slightly more conservative. That said, black shoes are still more conservative, and for this reason slightly safer, IMO. This doesn't mean brown shoes are wrong or that I would have an issue wearing them in a formal business setting with a suit, just that they're not quite the ne plus ultra of conservative footwear.


point being, if no one notices, cares, or says anything, does it really matter?
 

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point being, if no one notices, cares, or says anything, does it really matter?
But in what context? On this forum or at your office? I could dress terribly in my office (I actually used to) and no one cared or noticed, as they all dressed poorly too. Even though they didn't notice, I still looked bad.
 

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point being, if no one notices, cares, or says anything, does it really matter?


Most of the time in day-to-day life, probably not. There may be a few office environments where black shoes are expected, but I don't know of any personally. If I'm going to a job interview or pitching to a new client I've never met before, I'd always wear black over brown and keep my clothes on the more sedate side. I think there are a small number of cases where the less colorful and more boring shoe (even though I like black a good bit more than you, I do agree that it is somewhat boring) is definitely a better choice.
 

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But in what context? On this forum or at your office? I could dress terribly in my office (I actually used to) and no one cared or noticed, as they all dressed poorly too. Even though they didn't notice, I still looked bad.


point is that brown shoes would be disdained not for looking bad, but for being somehow less formal. My statement is that since no one cares, wear what looks better, which in my opinion, is brown.


Most of the time in day-to-day life, probably not. There may be a few office environments where black shoes are expected, but I don't know of any personally. If I'm going to a job interview or pitching to a new client I've never met before, I'd always wear black over brown and keep my clothes on the more sedate side. I think there are a small number of cases where the less colorful and more boring shoe (even though I like black a good bit more than you, I do agree that it is somewhat boring) is definitely a better choice.


i agree that conservative choices are better, hence navy suits, white or light blue shirts, subdued ties, etc. never run into a situation where dark brown captoes would be astride of that
 

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bull.

I don't care what board room, law firm, or investment bank you are in, no one will give a rats ass if you walk in with a well fitted gray or navy suit and dark brown captoe oxfords. no one will say anything, no one will berate you, in fact, you'd probably get compliments, i know I have.

Negative in London.
 

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I agree the tan monks would be the first to go if something had to go. But it is a very useful shoe.

Foo is also right that if you had to pare down, seasonality could be ditched, but if you can achieve seasonality with only 6-7 pairs, you should.

The fooshoo is absolutely wrong for summer.
 

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