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Stone island, c.p. company

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Stone, Nov 17, 2002.

  1. Stone

    Stone Senior member

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    What do you all think of these companies? I dunno why, but the pseudo-militaristic thing kind of appeals to me. The construction of the stuff looks good.
     
  2. bigbadbuff

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    I don't know much about them... see stuff by them on Ebay a lot. Certainly priced like they are well made. I think Saks might carry them in their stores?
     
  3. thc

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    I love CP Company; Stone Island, not so much, but they make good jeans. CP Company has a store here in NYC down in SoHo and the store is great. My favorite article of clothing is this greyish-bluish sweater I bought there with a polo collar made of a cotton/elasthane blend. The staff at the store is great and are good at making recommendations.

    I like CP Company because they really maintain a good balance of mixing the latest developments in textile technology and making the clothes still look wearable. They had this great jacket that was hand painted in rubber which actually looked great. Of course, they have their misses, but who doesn't. I think CP Company is great, and I'm glad they have a store here in New York.
     
  4. Joe G

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    I concur completely with thc on CP Company, although my favourite pieces this year wear the rubberised zip cardigan and the mille migila racer's coat. Really nice stuff, high-tech but wearable, and well finished. I wouldn't call either piece (or the collection as a whole) particularly military, though.

    Stone Island I've never heard of.

    Peace,

    JG
     
  5. faust

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    I just wanted to bump this up to get any more comments. Thanks.
     
  6. LA Guy

    LA Guy Opposite Santa Staff Member Admin Moderator

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    I like C.P. Company stuff, although recently, their fabrics have taken a turn towards the bizarre, with more and more use of metal, for the crinkled look, I imagine. The cut is pretty generous for an Italian brand, and there is always good attention to detail in a lot of their pieces. I find more Stone Island stuff just a notch below, and not really up to snuff for the prices. Also, the overt branding rubs me the wrong way.

    In the UK however, both brands are sort of associated with football hooliganism (while in the States, they are generally sold at better retailers and high end specialty shops), so be careful about that...
     
  7. gamelan

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    i second what thc says. CP Company seems to have a very unique clothing line and i think a lot of it comes from their crazy fabrics. unfortunately, they are also rather pricey.

    enter Yoox! i have a very cool waxed linen safari jacket from them that i bought off Yoox (~$100). and last season they had an insulated dark brown waxed cotton jacket that i bought (also from Yoox...~$200) and now that i think about it, should not have returned. but the fabric was just amazing. really hard to describe.

    no experience with their pants, shirts, sweaters, etc.

    oh, and if you haven't done so already, definitely check out: http://www.stoneisland.co.uk/

    -Jeff
     
  8. gza

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    CP Company is a great innovator when it comes to fabrics and details in their jackets. The cut is generous as LA Guy mentioned, and the rest of their line strikes me as mostly run of the mill sportswear, although I have a couple knits that I like.

    I actually bought and kept that waxed cotton jacket from Yoox after gamelan returned it, and I agree it's a very cool fabric - the look they achieved is quite similar to distressed leather.

    It's funny how the same brands that are considered upscale and exclusive in the states are so stigmatized by their chav/casual association on the other side of the water.
     
  9. Flame

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    It's funny how the same brands that are considered upscale and exclusive in the states are so stigmatized by their chav/casual association on the other side of the water.
    Case in point, Burberry [​IMG]
     
  10. trogdor

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    Was it stone island or CP company that made that wicked coat with goggles embedded in the hood? You could put the hood up, and it would come to halfway down your face, but you could still see out because of the goggles. Kind of like a "balaclava from above." Awesome. [EDIT] Found it; it's the CP company Mille Miglia coat: [​IMG] You can pull the hood down so the CTV cameras can't see you when you're fighting with Millwall fans [​IMG]
     
  11. skalogre

    skalogre Senior member

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    Was it stone island or CP company that made that wicked coat with goggles embedded in the hood? You could put the hood up, and it would come to halfway down your face, but you could still see out because of the goggles. Kind of like a "balaclava from above." Awesome. [EDIT] Found it; it's the CP company Mille Miglia coat: [​IMG] You can pull the hood down so the CTV cameras can't see you when you're fighting with Millwall fans [​IMG]
    That immediately made me think of Dylan Moran in BlackBooks [​IMG]
     
  12. Osti

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    Hi all,just thought id give an opinion from the other side of the pond! I love C.P. Company/Stone Island,though i favour the superior CP as its generally more discreet than its mouthy little brother S.I. Though both brands are very well made & designed. Here in England S.I. used to be associated with football hooligans in the late 80's & 90's but is now linked with chav culture {bit like Burberry!} I say Stone Island but it is mainly the button-on badge on the left arm which evokes this notion,hence when i wear my old jumpers & jackets i remove the badge! Also alot {most?} of it is fake,so when i see the badge i laugh,which is sad because that guy could have paid $300 for it! As for CP Company they are an amazingly innovative brand that have over the years {in my opinion} consistently made the best mens clothing on the market,whether your a city boy or a casual! The infamous 'Goggle' coat talked about earlier in this forum is called a 'Mille Miglia' which is named after a car street race {hence the goggles} & is a cult classic & has now been released in a few different designs with the goggles in the hood which un-pop to cover your eyes & also the Explorer version which completely covers the face! {you can see me wearing my prized 50% Hemp CP Explorer on your left!} The only downside to CP Company is the price,but as they say you get what you pay for!

    R.I.P. Massimo Osti
    [​IMG]
     
  13. dkzzzz

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    Ordered a sport coat in IT48/US38 from C.P. Company.
    Conclusion is: size-up one full size!
    I am 38 regular or IT 48 in all grown-up designer brands, but this teenage brand is just not the right size.
    My general impression of the brand is: cheap materials, poor stitching but some creativity a-la urban street wear.
    Unfortunately lately so many new and old brands make this type of clothing that the whole novelty of C.P. & Stone Island wore off on me.
    Hilarious booklet that came with this sport coat stated that all crappy fabric and craftsmanship in fact should be appreciated by the wearer as a sign of uniqueness of this garment. Brilliant .[​IMG]

    In short if you just "graduating" from GAP and American Eagle you'd be impressed with C.P. styling and "attention to details".

    Conclusion: Overpriced junk for high school kids.
     
  14. earthdragon

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    Right on 'Osti'.
    Up until I left London last year, unfortunately Stone Island was 'de rigour' for the 'Yobbo' culture. CP on the other hand, each season comes up with some absolutely stunning pieces, with an innovative use of materials. Great fitting Polo's and Jeans.
    Full retail is insane. I always waited for the January sales.
    My wife is also rather partial to their CP 'Donna' line.
    I have not seen to much of it on the west coast.
     
  15. beluga

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    I really like a lot of cp company clothes just bought a jacket. Great value for the $200 I bought it for.

    Here scandinavia Stone Island is nothing more than a hooligan-label. If you wear a jacket or sweater with their badge you better be prepared to fight eith the other hooligans..
     
  16. Drinkwaters

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    Originally concieved by Massimo Osti, CP Company and Stone Island evolved in the 80's as a line that hyped Expedition wear with advanced technology in fabrications.
    Some of his designs actually transformed into other products such as Kites, Tents etc.
    Because of his revolutionary ideas in design, there was a traveling show that set up in various museums around the world showing his creations. Also there are collectors of his stuff.

    Gary
     
  17. mille_miglia

    mille_miglia New Member

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    Hi dont post here that much but thought I'd drop in my two cents since this is one of my favorite topics.
    I think writing off a brand because of sizing was off is a bit silly. SI is a true Italian brand so their sizing is tailored to a much smaller Italian customer. I'm sorry to hear that you had an issue with sizing as SI size is a bit tricky to get used to. I wear a (48) winter and (50) Summer. If you follow those guides you'll be ok. With Stone Island you either love it or you hate it. Its very similar to the brand loyalty you find in apple customers(btw im a mfanboy). It's construction, function, and design are lost on the mass market. Simple things like Lino and Raso gommato, rubberized linen an cotton, make a plain and simple garment into something that is both waterproof and functional as well as luxurious. And they were doing this 25 years ago. The SI brand itself has been around for over 25 years, and like drink8648 says there are avid collectors of the brand including myself, while a small collector I have over 60 jackets alone. And why, you would ask. A lot has to do with the timelessness of the SI design. I have jackets 10-25 years old that are still the most sought after pieces and worn today. The best pieces have transcended being a fashion garment and have become true pieces of art. Its sad that Osti doesn't get the recognition he deserves. cause he was a true force in pioneering and revolutionizing the men's wear industry. While most fashion designers move collars and pockets around. Otis while leading CP and Stone Island actually invented over I believe its 30,000 fabrics. The main issue with the Stone Island in the states is that people never get to see any of the best pieces produced and the subtly is lost on the US consumer. I live in NYC and the two stores that carry it are guaranteed to be stocked with the worst pieces of the line. Thus all my pieces i purchase are direct from Italy or Korea where the best pieces of SI and CP are released. I actually write a stone island blog in my spare time if you intrested in learning a bit more. http://www.found-nyc.com
     
  18. Biscione

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    I love CP company. I have bought much of it, and also love some things my father got decades ago. At times, absolutely perfect casual clothing, in my opinion.

    One of my favourite pieces of late was a casual jacket that evoked feelings of a suit jacket by virtue of it's construction (notch lapels, etc.) but had many unusual features, including the aforementioned (detachable) hood with goggles.

    Great brand.
     
  19. maltess

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    I would like to know if there is a company somewhere that makes decent quality and nice jackets for around 250 dollars.
     

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