Stone colored suit, quick color question

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  1. Gradstudent78

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    Looks ok here:
    http://men.style.com/print/slideshow...DALONE/photo/0


    On the contrary, that is everything you should not do. It's a reductio ad absurdum. And look at the hilariously wrong advice that goes with it.

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    A khaki suit can be just as elegant as a dark one. The trick is to skip the bright colors and stick with an otherwise black-and-white palette: a crisp white shirt with a starched collar, a black tie adorned with a silver tie bar, and a belt and a briefcase in glossy coal-colored leather. Add an alabaster pocket square and the outfit's as refined as a tux.


    This is not a demonstration of how to wear a khaki suit. It's a demonstration that men's fashion magazines choose copy editors primarily for their willingness to be underpaid rather than for any understanding of proper style. Relying on their latest glurge as a style guide will often have you dressing like a clown. Fortunately, the effect is only short-lived as they will be proffering the exact opposite advice in six months.
     


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    pink tie would look better, but no it does not look bad.

    Do not wear black shoes! [​IMG]
     


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    Go with the dotted navy tie and get some brown shoes. Ditch the belt or get a brown one with the shoes.
     


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    Tan, black and white are a classic combination and don't let anyone tell you different.

    Our illustrious member Will has written about it extensively on his blog (which, if it isn't on your daily reading list...it should be). Whether or not Will would recommend this combination for a summer daytime wedding, I'll let him tell us if he wishes. But to say that they don't go together well is simply incorrect.
    Here are a couple of his posts on this subject:

    http://asuitablewardrobe.dynend.com/...ood-woman.html
    http://asuitablewardrobe.dynend.com/...n-and-gin.html
    http://asuitablewardrobe.dynend.com/...ith-theme.html
    http://asuitablewardrobe.dynend.com/...temporary.html

    I have worn a tan, cotton suit to a summer, outdoor, daytime wedding in the past. But that tells you very little. I am often inappropriate. As for shoes, if it were me, I'd go with a lighter brown or even white bucks or spectators if the event was an informal, daytime affair. Possibly black if the wedding were at night. But if it were at night, I'd probably also be going with a navy suit.
     


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    Tan, black and white are a classic combination and don't let anyone tell you different.

    Our illustrious member Will has written about it extensively on his blog (which, if it isn't on your daily reading list...it should be). Whether or not Will would recommend this combination for a summer daytime wedding, I'll let him tell us if he wishes. But to say that they don't go together well is simply incorrect.
    Here are a couple of his posts on this subject:

    http://asuitablewardrobe.dynend.com/...ood-woman.html
    http://asuitablewardrobe.dynend.com/...n-and-gin.html
    http://asuitablewardrobe.dynend.com/...ith-theme.html
    http://asuitablewardrobe.dynend.com/...temporary.html

    I have worn a tan, cotton suit to a summer, outdoor, daytime wedding in the past. But that tells you very little. I am often inappropriate. As for shoes, if it were me, I'd go with a lighter brown or even white bucks or spectators if the event was an informal, daytime affair. Possibly black if the wedding were at night. But if it were at night, I'd probably also be going with a navy suit.


    Note none of the black ties with the lighter suits are solid black. The dotted black tie, I'd say, is an elegant solution.
     


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    Tan, black and white are a classic combination and don't let anyone tell you different.

    Our illustrious member Will has written about it extensively on his blog (which, if it isn't on your daily reading list...it should be). Whether or not Will would recommend this combination for a summer daytime wedding, I'll let him tell us if he wishes. But to say that they don't go together well is simply incorrect.
    Here are a couple of his posts on this subject:

    http://asuitablewardrobe.dynend.com/...ood-woman.html
    http://asuitablewardrobe.dynend.com/...n-and-gin.html
    http://asuitablewardrobe.dynend.com/...ith-theme.html
    http://asuitablewardrobe.dynend.com/...temporary.html

    I have worn a tan, cotton suit to a summer, outdoor, daytime wedding in the past. But that tells you very little. I am often inappropriate. As for shoes, if it were me, I'd go with a lighter brown or even white bucks or spectators if the event was an informal, daytime affair. Possibly black if the wedding were at night. But if it were at night, I'd probably also be going with a navy suit.


    But none of his examples are wearing a)black shoes with a light khaki suit and/or b)a white pocket square with a light khaki suit. In fact,

    The jacket and shirt are linen, and the necktie's white dots work with the shirt to reduce the intensity of the black. During the week this is a good combination with tan suits and tan shoes and it's equally effective during off hours with cream trousers, which was how I wore it.

    There's certainly nothing wrong with a khaki suit and a white shirt. (I'm a little iffy about a black tie with it and certainly not a sold black tie. I'm a little iffy about black FIH ties in general.) But it's the details that make or break the combination. I trust we all agree that this is utter cack.

    Add an alabaster pocket square and the outfit's as refined as a tux.

    Light colored suits can look great, but tuxes they are most definitely not, no matter how much you might try to mimic one.
     


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    But none of his examples are wearing a)black shoes with a light khaki suit and/or b)a white pocket square with a light khaki suit. In fact,

    The jacket and shirt are linen, and the necktie's white dots work with the shirt to reduce the intensity of the black. During the week this is a good combination with tan suits and tan shoes and it's equally effective during off hours with cream trousers, which was how I wore it.

    There's certainly nothing wrong with a khaki suit and a white shirt. (I'm a little iffy about a black tie with it and certainly not a sold black tie. I'm a little iffy about black FIH ties in general.) But it's the details that make or break the combination. I trust we all agree that this is utter cack.

    Add an alabaster pocket square and the outfit’s as refined as a tux.

    Light colored suits can look great, but tuxes they are most definitely not, no matter how much you might try to mimic one.


    An inherent subtext to all of my posts are that if it comes from an edition of GQ after about 1980 it's inherently rubbish. I certainly wasn't defending such nonsense as what you quoted.

    Would a patterned tie be better? Probably. Would a solid tie look bad? Meh. There are better choices, but it wouldn't be wrong.

    Look, the reason that tan, black and white combine well is because they all neutrals. There is no conflict of color. It's not exciting, but it can be elegant, if properly done.

    Black shoes wouldn't be my first choice with a khaki suit, but it wouldn't be wrong. A white pocket square could work (see the pic of Dan Draper in Will's blog post), but it wouldn't be my first choice.

    I think it's really hard to give lots of hard and fast rules without seeing the particular combinations he's considering. Personally, I have very little use for a solid black four-in-hand tie. But that's just me. I wouldn't be telling him that it can't work, though.
     


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    An inherent subtext to all of my posts are that if it comes from an edition of GQ after about 1980 it's inherently rubbish. I certainly wasn't defending such nonsense as what you quoted.

    Would a patterned tie be better? Probably. Would a solid tie look bad? Meh. There are better choices, but it wouldn't be wrong.

    Look, the reason that tan, black and white combine well is because they all neutrals. There is no conflict of color. It's not exciting, but it can be elegant, if properly done.

    Black shoes wouldn't be my first choice with a khaki suit, but it wouldn't be wrong. A white pocket square could work (see the pic of Dan Draper in Will's blog post), but it wouldn't be my first choice.

    I think it's really hard to give lots of hard and fast rules without seeing the particular combinations he's considering. Personally, I have very little use for a solid black four-in-hand tie. But that's just me. I wouldn't be telling him that it can't work, though.


    I agree, it's not the most exciting look but what the OP suggested wont look ridiculous and I don't find anything inherently wrong with it.
     


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    Two pages of sharply conflicting views should be indication enough.
     


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    I think this color of green (though not this tie, in particular) looks good with stone poplin.

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    Wear with the sleeker of the black monks or the black wingtips and black socks with white dots or clocks for both relationship and style points. Extra style points if you know the source.
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    Wear with the sleeker of the black monks or the black wingtips and black socks with white dots or clocks for both relationship and style points. Extra style points if you know the source.


    Tom Wolfe.
     


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