1. And... we're back. You'll notice that all of your images are back as well, as are our beloved emoticons, including the infamous :foo: We have also worked with our server folks and developers to fix the issues that were slowing down the site.

    There is still work to be done - the images in existing sigs are not yet linked, for example, and we are working on a way to get the images to load faster - which will improve the performance of the site, especially on the pages with a ton of images, and we will continue to work diligently on that and keep you updated.

    Cheers,

    Fok on behalf of the entire Styleforum team
    Dismiss Notice

Steroids in Bodybuilding...

Discussion in 'Health & Body' started by Tck13, Mar 30, 2009.

  1. dl20

    dl20 Senior member

    Messages:
    1,298
    Joined:
    Nov 27, 2007
    a good friend is a pro bb. this is what an average week looks like:

    1.5 gram sustenon or test blend

    1 gram deca

    75 mg/day anadrol

    8 weekly IUs HGH and insulin

    75mg/day tren


    Interesting, only because that is not that much gear. As someone else said, its more genetics than anything else. If you want to see some crazy dosing, check out the guys on the amateur circuits and you'll be sure to find some 180lber on 4grams of test.

    Toward the end of my training I was up to 2500mg of enanthate and probably had used 100mg of dbol in addition to deca, GH, slin and a handful of other ancillaries.

    Best stack IMO is still winny and water.

    dl
     
  2. Stazy

    Stazy Senior member

    Messages:
    7,194
    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2006
    Location:
    Toronto
    There's health side effects to playing sports like hockey and football too.


    Not necessarily.

    lol, I love ronnie. I always joked with my clients and lifting buddies "woooooo buddy, light weight light weight!"

    Haha me too. I love saying that when I'm giving someone a spot.
     
  3. thekunk07

    thekunk07 Senior member

    Messages:
    18,145
    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2007
    Location:
    nyc
    4 grams. fuck.

    at my heaviuest use, i would do 50mg/day tren, 750mg a week deca and 750/week test and gained 35lbs. don;t know why anyone would need 4 g
     
  4. suited

    suited Senior member

    Messages:
    6,400
    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2008
    4 grams is a boatload of test. Christ, how many times were you shooting a day? You must have looked like a pin cushion...
     
  5. Tck13

    Tck13 Senior member

    Messages:
    5,750
    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2006
    Location:
    Philly
    There's health side effects to playing sports like hockey and football too.
    That's not even a logical comparison. The results from a quick google search for doing steroids aren't even comparable to what might happen from playing a sport. Physical activity is healthy overall.
    One thing's for sure, they have a lot more willpower and dedication than the morbidly obese bedridden fatso.
    I don't know, I think it takes quite a bit of willpower / addiction / mental illness to become a "morbidly obese bedridden fatso"...
    they only look like that for a few days of the year. spending 30k+ on steroids a year has made Ronnie a multi-millionaire, has some VERY nice cars and is respected wherever he goes as one of if not the best bodybuilder ever. he is/was a professional athlete who dominated his sport. i bet if Micheal Schumacher took you for a ride in a car you'd look at him/his skills in the same light!
    I'd respect someone much more if they did it without drugs.
     
  6. dl20

    dl20 Senior member

    Messages:
    1,298
    Joined:
    Nov 27, 2007
    4 grams is a boatload of test. Christ, how many times were you shooting a day? You must have looked like a pin cushion...

    I didnt use 4g test. I'm saying the amateur circuit is full of guys who abuse gear like crazy thinking it'll make up for their lazy training and poor diets.

    That being said I've always been a big fan of water based test which needs to be shot daily. Its usually cheap but hurts like a bitch to stick for 2 reasons. One, its water based, and 2 you need a pin large enough to get the crystals through. test susp will clog a 23 gauge pin in an instant.

    dl
     
  7. dl20

    dl20 Senior member

    Messages:
    1,298
    Joined:
    Nov 27, 2007
    4 grams. fuck.

    at my heaviuest use, i would do 50mg/day tren, 750mg a week deca and 750/week test and gained 35lbs. don;t know why anyone would need 4 g


    I shot tren a few times but never trusted the guy making it up. Oddly enough I had decent results pulverising the pellets and doing it transdermally with DMSO gel.
     
  8. thekunk07

    thekunk07 Senior member

    Messages:
    18,145
    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2007
    Location:
    nyc
    i used tren 3 times and kept all the gains/fat loss i got from it. amazing shit if you don;t mind kennel cough and feeling like shit.
     
  9. Dac

    Dac Active Member

    Messages:
    35
    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2009
    His genetics are what got him there as well. There are only a handful of people who could ever look like that, no matter what drugs you take.

    absolutely. genes play a very important role also, if you want crazy genes look at Lee Haney. its important to note that at the beginning of Ronnies Mr O contending he was placing very near the back, wasnt a forerunner at all. i dont think his genes suddenly improved over those couple of years when he began to dominate [​IMG]
     
  10. bawlin

    bawlin Senior member

    Messages:
    2,958
    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2008
    All you guys who used to take AAS', what was your reasoning for doing so? And be honest with yourself. Were you competing? Was it for aesthetic purposes?

    Interested to hear your responses...

    Thanks!
     
  11. thekunk07

    thekunk07 Senior member

    Messages:
    18,145
    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2007
    Location:
    nyc
    aesthetics, vanity, etc.
     
  12. JoeWoah

    JoeWoah Senior member

    Messages:
    3,777
    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2007
    Location:
    Hollywood for Ugly People... Washington, DC
    i used tren 3 times and kept all the gains/fat loss i got from it. amazing shit if you don;t mind kennel cough and feeling like shit.

    [​IMG] sounds shitty.

    I think I'd be down to take something in my mid-late 30's if things start going downhill, like I hear they do... but I'd only want enough to keep what I have going on right now at 26. What could I take to maintain, HGH? Anything that doesn't require shots? I almost pass out whenever I get one.
     
  13. Jthaeler

    Jthaeler Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    68
    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2009
    Amazing and disgusting
     
  14. turbozed

    turbozed Senior member

    Messages:
    564
    Joined:
    Mar 21, 2006
    That's not even a logical comparison. The results from a quick google search for doing steroids aren't even comparable to what might happen from playing a sport. Physical activity is healthy overall.


    It is a logical comparison. "Steroids" is a pretty general term and you'll have to define what you mean when you say it. Just as "playing football' is a pretty general term. Professional athletes have a wide range of debilitating injuries from their sports. Some have severe concussions that eventually lead to neurological disorders in the future. Do some research on brain scans of football players. Then there are kids who play high school for fun or whatevers, they might have some minor injuries but it's no big deal.

    Likewise, there's a large segment of the population doing what you might consider "steroids" and doing just fine. Not everybody suffers from shrunken balls, bitch tits and liver failure. You can go lurk some online forums right now and you'll find a lot of normal people taking mild testosterone boosters, prohormones, even AAS under proper supervision and precautions and doing just fine.

    I would never want to fuck with that type of stuff but I'm not so ignorant as make broad generalizations about "steroids" and then call others illogical for not wholly condemning them.
     
  15. Deluks917

    Deluks917 Senior member

    Messages:
    952
    Joined:
    Dec 16, 2007
    I'd respect someone much more if they did it without drugs.

    Except that it is obviously and literally not possible to look anything like that without drugs.
     
  16. turbozed

    turbozed Senior member

    Messages:
    564
    Joined:
    Mar 21, 2006
    Except that it is obviously and literally not possible to look anything like that without drugs.
    Yup. There's some 'natural bodybuilding' competitions out there and those guys look nothing like the ones that are juicing heavily. Ironically, the 'natural bodybuilders' don't look very 'natural' by most peoples' understanding of the term either.
     
  17. thekunk07

    thekunk07 Senior member

    Messages:
    18,145
    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2007
    Location:
    nyc
    ^because they aren't. i have friends who compete "naturally". it's a bit of an oxymoron.
     
  18. Tck13

    Tck13 Senior member

    Messages:
    5,750
    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2006
    Location:
    Philly
    There's health side effects to playing sports like hockey and football too.

    There's also health effects to smoking and overeating.

    I wouldn't even want to look like a bodybuilder but it's their lifestyle and it's up to them whether to take the risks. One thing's for sure, they have a lot more willpower and dedication than the morbidly obese bedridden fatso.


    It is a logical comparison. "Steroids" is a pretty general term and you'll have to define what you mean when you say it. Just as "playing football' is a pretty general term. Professional athletes have a wide range of debilitating injuries from their sports. Some have severe concussions that eventually lead to neurological disorders in the future. Do some research on brain scans of football players. Then there are kids who play high school for fun or whatevers, they might have some minor injuries but it's no big deal.

    Likewise, there's a large segment of the population doing what you might consider "steroids" and doing just fine. Not everybody suffers from shrunken balls, bitch tits and liver failure. You can go lurk some online forums right now and you'll find a lot of normal people taking mild testosterone boosters, prohormones, even AAS under proper supervision and precautions and doing just fine.

    I would never want to fuck with that type of stuff but I'm not so ignorant as make broad generalizations about "steroids" and then call others illogical for not wholly condemning them.



    ???

    I didn't make any broad generalizations about anything. You did, and it's up to you to back up yourextremely general claim that the effects of using steroids are just as harmful as the effects of playing sports (which I disagree with and is absurd).

    I merely said:
     
  19. turbozed

    turbozed Senior member

    Messages:
    564
    Joined:
    Mar 21, 2006
    ???

    I didn't make any broad generalizations about anything. You did, and it's up to you to back up yourextremely general claim that the effects of using steroids are just as harmful as the effects of playing sports (which I disagree with and is absurd).

    I merely said:


    Find any post I made saying that steroids are 'just as harmful.' Find any post that has me using any comparative language.

    All I said was that sports have negative health effects and so does any lifestyle choice involving the body (nutrition, drug use, etc.). In all of these areas, there are extreme examples. You're the one that wrongly inferred that I was saying that steroid use was as bad for the body as playing 2 hand touch football (or whatever silly notion you're attributing to me).

    There's a wide varying range in any activity that stresses the body. My point is you can't condemn bodybuilding because at it's extreme end you got a guy with liver failure. Likewise, I don't condemn playing sports just because there are a large number of former athletes with extreme brain damage or I don't condemn chocolate cake because there are 600 lbs bedridden fatsos out there.
     
  20. Tck13

    Tck13 Senior member

    Messages:
    5,750
    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2006
    Location:
    Philly
    Find any post I made saying that steroids are 'just as harmful.' Find any post that has me using any comparative language.

    Sure, how about this first post when you compare the seriousness of football injuries to the steroid user who's "doing just fine"... Do you seriously not know what you said?

    It is a logical comparison. "Steroids" is a pretty general term and you'll have to define what you mean when you say it. Just as "playing football' is a pretty general term. Professional athletes have a wide range of debilitating injuries from their sports. Some have severe concussions that eventually lead to neurological disorders in the future. Do some research on brain scans of football players. Then there are kids who play high school for fun or whatevers, they might have some minor injuries but it's no big deal.

    Likewise, there's a large segment of the population doing what you might consider "steroids" and doing just fine. Not everybody suffers from shrunken balls, bitch tits and liver failure. You can go lurk some online forums right now and you'll find a lot of normal people taking mild testosterone boosters, prohormones, even AAS under proper supervision and precautions and doing just fine.

    I would never want to fuck with that type of stuff but I'm not so ignorant as make broad generalizations about "steroids" and then call others illogical for not wholly condemning them.




    All I said was that sports have negative health effects and so does any lifestyle choice involving the body (nutrition, drug use, etc.). In all of these areas, there are extreme examples. You're the one that wrongly inferred that I was saying that steroid use was as bad for the body as playing 2 hand touch football (or whatever silly notion you're attributing to me).

    There's a wide varying range in any activity that stresses the body. My point is you can't condemn bodybuilding because at it's extreme end you got a guy with liver failure. Likewise, I don't condemn playing sports just because there are a large number of former athletes with extreme brain damage or I don't condemn chocolate cake because there are 600 lbs bedridden fatsos out there.


    I get it! You're saying that no one can criticize anyone because they're doing something since there's negative consequences to everything... [​IMG] [​IMG]
     

Share This Page

Styleforum is proudly sponsored by