Long story of how I got these but I am putting it up here in case anyone wants this. Slim Straight, excellent breathable fabric for the summer. The only problem is that there's a small moth bite that's around 2mm in diameter. I think this is fixable but I think a better idea would be to turn these into awesome summer shorts (easy job at any tailor). They fit me too tight on the thigh for me to do so (I am a 31 in most pants now ) , so I am hoping someone else might want to do this. Inseam is around a 30 right now with a 1 inch cuff. Sold as is. Shipped Conus.