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State of Metal

Discussion in 'Entertainment, Culture, and Sports' started by T4phage, Apr 8, 2005.

  1. T4phage

    T4phage Senior member

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    What is going on in the world of metal music?? It seems to be stuck in the late 90's. Most of the American stuff I've been hearing/seeing seems to have the "Metallica" formula down to pat: long long hair, usually bearded, legs apart, and swinging their heads so that their hair rotates. Vocals usually growls which becomes screams... ughh.. Else, you have the 'death' metal as personified by Dimmu Borgir... Is there no hope for metal progression?

    Here in Europe, what is usually called "heavy" metal is either the "Europe" (of "The Final Countdown" fame) type like The Rasmus, or you end up with "Goth" metal.... there are some notable exceptions such as Rammstein though...
     
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    Ah, you forgot the dissapointment that is Nu Metal. Unfortunately that is what main-stream rock has become.
     
  3. T4phage

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    What is "nu metal"? Pseudo-Punk groups like Simple plan?
     
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    No, its stuff like Disturbed or *Shudder* Limp Bizkit. There's a lot more bands but unfortunatly just thinking of Fred Durst has given me a headache and I can't think of them right now.
     
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    premonition of war
    martyr a.d.
    the chariot
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    100 demons
    lamb of god
    All great American metal/metalcore.
     
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    they are no more but i would highly recommend A Minor Forest for current/former metal fans looking for something a little different. better yet if you can find any live material from then. their '96 or '97 Jabberjaw show down here in LA still ranks as one of my top 3 concert going experiences of all time.

    -Jeff
     
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    I love Dream Theater. Incredible musicianship. However, sometimes they get a bit too technical in their playing. But their compositions are far more complicated than Metallica have ever done. John Petrucci is also one of the best guitarist imho. At least in Rock music [​IMG]
     
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    What do you think of Rammstein btw? I used to dislike them. But lately i've been listening to them quite a bit. Their music is a bit simple but they're ok as background music.
     
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    I'd agree that right now, American metal leaves a lot to be desired, but there's a lot of interesting stuff coming out of South America, Germany, Finland, and Sweden these days. Â It tends toward more progressive metal but there are certainly other genres represented, too. Â I hear a lot of interesting stuff on a couple different streaming "internet radio stations" such as www.epicrockradio.com and www.metalstorm.ee. dan
     
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    I like Rammstein fine, some of their stuff has a good driving beat, sometimes they get a bit bizzare, but overall quite good... and they have something which every "good" metal band should have: anthematic songs. Ich Will or Feuer Frei anybody? As for modern guitar gods, how about Joe Santarini or Yngwie Malmsteen? Not the pathetic and anemic "The Edge" of U2 [​IMG]
     
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    Do you mean Joe Satriani? I've never heard of Santarini??? I like Malmsteen fine, but you should definitely check out John Petrucci.

    Just listen to Dream Theater - Metropolis pt. 1 , Change of Seasons (23 minutes though) or Liquid Tension Experiment - Paradigm Shift, Acid rain. Definitely one of my favourite guitarists.
     
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    Sorry, my bad.. yes Joe Satriani.

    I'll check out what you suggest... although it is not rock opera is it, you know, like Ayreon?
     
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    Roy Senior member

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    Originally Posted by Roy,April 10 2005,13:25
    Do you mean Joe Satriani? I've never heard of Santarini??? I like Malmsteen fine, but you should definitely check out John Petrucci. Just listen to Dream Theater - Metropolis pt. 1 , Change of Seasons (23 minutes though) or Liquid Tension Experiment - Paradigm Shift, Acid rain. Definitely one of my favourite guitarists.
    Sorry, my bad.. yes Joe Satriani. Â I'll check out what you suggest... although it is not rock opera is it, you know, like Ayreon?
    Although all the Dream Theater band member were classically trained (three of them went to Berklee) they have a pretty heavy sound. If you'd like something that comes close to Metallica for instance, try 'This dying soul'. They incorporate a hommage to Metallica in that song. Pretty damn good.
     
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    Petrucci is phenomenal. My friend recently heard Satchmo, Vai and Malmsteen (aka the bloated Swede, heh) and said it was fantastic.

    koji
     
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    How could I forget Steve Vai. [​IMG]
     
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    (Thracozaag @ April 10 2005,17:49) Petrucci is phenomenal. Â My friend recently heard Satchmo, Vai and Malmsteen (aka the bloated Swede, heh) and said it was fantastic. koji
    How could I forget Steve Vai. Â [​IMG]
    Vai is good. Petrucci's better. But recently i've been listening to some old school rock a lot. Especially the Deep Puple/Ritchie Blackmore songs. Blackmore really is awesome.
     
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    Blackmore was very underrated.  Randy Rhoads, George Lynch, Trey Spruance, and Larry LaLonde, Andy Summers are some other underrated guys I really like.

    koji
     
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    I just love the Ozzy Osbourne songs on which Randy Rhoads plays the guitar. He's a lot better than Zakk Wylde imho.

    Zakks's not bad, just not as good. I also still love to listen Eddie van Halen play the guitar. Can't help it.
     
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    Rhoads was tremendous, a real loss. I was remiss in not mentioning Allan Holdsworth as well, what a player.

    koji
     

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