1. And... we're back. You'll notice that all of your images are back as well, as are our beloved emoticons, including the infamous :foo: We have also worked with our server folks and developers to fix the issues that were slowing down the site.

    There is still work to be done - the images in existing sigs are not yet linked, for example, and we are working on a way to get the images to load faster - which will improve the performance of the site, especially on the pages with a ton of images, and we will continue to work diligently on that and keep you updated.


    Fok on behalf of the entire Styleforum team
    Dismiss Notice

Starting Your Own Business - Inspiration/Turning Or Breaking Point

Discussion in 'Business, Careers & Education' started by Imhoff, Nov 10, 2011.

  1. ImaPro

    ImaPro Senior member

    Dec 31, 2010

    Within reason you do need money to make money. You can start from scratch but its gonna be fucking hard, and odds are you won't make it very far.
  2. paradoxical3

    paradoxical3 Well-Known Member

    Jul 20, 2011
    My opinion is somewhere in the middle - the thing is, you need something usually, but only enough to develop it to the point where you can ask investors for more. People tend to think "Oh woe is me, only millionaires can start businesses!" That's just not true.

    I started with $10,000 that was partially from me, but mostly borrowed from family. I realize that is an advantage that some people don't have, but I also feel $10,000 is not such a huge sum of money that it is unattainable. I used that $10k to flesh out the idea and prove the feasibility of the design, which enabled me to borrow enough to actually launch the business and complete the prototype. Now we're in the middle of closing an angel round, and this will give us significantly more room to breathe.

    Even if you can't come up with several thousand on your own, if it's a good idea that is truly profitable, all you have to do is show someone who has money that it will work. 99% of businesses aren't self funded entirely; so I feel that the mantra "it takes money to make money" is tired and overused.
    Last edited: Jun 1, 2012
  3. jpierceny

    jpierceny Member

    Jul 12, 2012
    To have the freedom and financial security that only owning your own business can provide.
  4. vanDiem

    vanDiem Member

    Jul 10, 2012
    I'd say take risks and be sure about your product, owning a business is very satisfying.
  5. GusW

    GusW Senior member Dubiously Honored

    Sep 18, 2007
    Everyone I know had to use savings, credit cards, borrow from friends and family, take out a second mortgage on the house, etc., to make their new enterprise happen. By doing so, you are putting your name and reputation on the line. It creates stress yes, but it is also motivating. I know it was for me.
  6. DHall806

    DHall806 New Member

    Mar 27, 2012
    That is freaking AWESOME!!
  7. nootje

    nootje Senior member

    Jul 14, 2008
    I didnt want to put anyone's money on the line, so we didnt except our own.
    Have yet to get that first client though....

    The motivation for all three of us was that the opportunity was there, its a great market for the coming years, and I doubt that anyone else will want to jump into it.
  8. Maximator

    Maximator Senior member

    Mar 31, 2012
    I absolutely hate being told what to do by others, so I don't do well at all in a hierarchical system. So I wanted to be able to make my own decisions. the second part was the money. Not so much the absolute amounts, but I slowly but surely started to hate the idea of working my but off to make someone else rich. I figured if I'm going to work hard, it might as well make ME rich.

    The turning point came when I found a very reliable business partner that wanted to start a company with me. Currently we're getting started with building prototype facilities, which is something I enjoy very much as it involves me working with my hands again. I also have complete freedom to whatever I want whenever(and obviously the responsibilities that entails).
  9. Relentless

    Relentless Active Member

    May 14, 2011
    What we do in life...echoes in eternity

    I could not agree more. Unless you are going to go out and sell your body on the street (as some of you probably do / wish you could), you are going to need some amount of money to get inventory, equipment, licensing, floorspace, raw materials, etc. In my business, you cannot even place an application with the state unless you have $25,000 and a surety bond with the state as the beneficiary. Anything that pays well takes money and hard work to get going and be profitable, IMHO. Even if you are going to do the most basic thing, such as lawncare, you need a transportation, a lawnmower, and some fuel. Have a great day gents and let's make some fucking money!!!

    The Relentless One
  10. Osqua

    Osqua Member

    Sep 20, 2012
    This, and more covered in a great little book on the topic. If you can get your hands on a copy of "The Knack" by Norm Brodsky and Bo Burlingham do it.

    Its all basic stuff for those looking to start up a business, and a good resource to keep for the occassional reality check along the way.
  11. i10casual

    i10casual Senior member

    Apr 8, 2009
    The business I run was created by my father in 2003. As a baby boomer he fell into the niche of no college but had been a GM for 30 years. His last boss died and the family sold the business for scrap. No one would hire him because the lack of college, his advanced age, and he is very ethnic looking. So the business was created out of a last ditch effort.

    A quick note on a great book I've been working with The Art of Profitability by Adrian Slywotzky. It is fantastic for choosing the profit model you should be working with. It small and right to the point. It's worth a read if you are in business for yourself.
  12. barkingloud78

    barkingloud78 Member

    Jun 29, 2012
    The way I came to start my own business was to first start doing the job I do now as a self employed person on the side, as extra income in addition to my full time job working for 'the man'. My main job was very structured, monotonous, boring, this side gig was an escape. When I realized how much I enjoyed it and started getting much better at it I decided to put more time into it and when money started increasing I realized it was a viable main income earning profession. It all kind of flowed well, my old job phased out when I moved out of state, and this side job turned into my main job. I actually was still applying for jobs working for 'the man' in my new state, but it never became necessary to go that route. My new venture was blessed and all roads led to it and all open doors were in this direction so I walked through. The main motivations for continuing with self employment are the creativity and variable nature of the work, of course the freedom of working for yourself, and the lack of a ceiling on what you can make. The challenges are the anxiety brought upon by knowing that you have no 'safety net' as far as a salary, either your company makes the money and you can pay yourself, or it doesn't. The main advice I can give is do things the right way, from the beginning, have a high standard of integrity. Doors will open for you and stay open based upon that fact alone because so many people are dishonest out there, you will be like a refreshing drink of water for your clients/customers when you're not. Secondly, tap into all your previous contacts for your new business, it may even be the deciding factor for what your new business is. Your contacts and the favor you have with people you have previous relationships with are like your raw materials for starting your business. You may find you are in a position to start a business you wouldn't have necessarily chosen for yourself, but you have the contacts to make it happen vs. starting something from scratch where you know no one and have no "in". Keep expenses as low as possible, pay yourself as little as possible at the beginning, and be smart. Nothing happens overnight, but if you work hard and again do things the right way, good things happen. Self employment is not for everyone, quite frankly there were a number of times when things were slow that I was sure it wasn't for me, but once you learn to navigate the ups and downs and not get too down or too excited during the lows and highs, you can operate at an even keel and be creative for your business. Most people aren't creative when they're terrified about where their next check is coming from, and most people slack off when they feel like things are just flowing like gravy and will do so for the rest of eternity. The mental aspect of self employment is so huge I think as far as your success.
  13. travelr

    travelr Member

    Oct 3, 2012
    Hong Kong
    Here's the thing...

    Don't wait for an inspiration point or a breaking point to FORCE you to start a business. To be truly successful, you need to have that desire inside of you to do the work EVEN WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE TO...

    This is really a measure of determination.

    I've been running my own business since 2006. It's a small business and I've designed it to operate with no employees so I can be free to go and do whatever I wish. Employees = office space, insurance, HR paperwork, not to mention the labor costs...

    A lot of businesses take money to start. I started mine with $500 and since I knew how to design a web site and knew the graphics stuff, I was able to start off pretty easily.

    All businesses start with ONE person. You. The game of business is to achieve profitability and scalability that goes beyond just you. So if you can be crazy profitable, great. Hire someone else to do the same or carry forward what you've started. Knowing how to do the job in the first place helps you train someone to carry it forward but you have to make sure that person doesn't have the skillset or resources (money / data / connections) to do it on their own... at least for the next 1-2 years.

    Anyway, if you're thinking about doing it, do it. The sooner the better, you don't want to hit 40 and look back and wonder "what if"... :)
  14. dv_indian

    dv_indian Senior member

    Nov 10, 2009
    Northern California
    I never had the balls to go into business on my own. I salute those that took the plunge - regardless of the outcome.
  15. ruzzi

    ruzzi Senior member

    Mar 21, 2006
    great thread
  16. amathew

    amathew Senior member

    Nov 4, 2011
    KS => CO => MN => CA
    I started a B2B consulting business right out of college providing 'statistical consulting' and 'data analysis and visualization support services' to small businesses. Being fresh out of college, I didn't have much savings, but I managed to scrape together my funds with some loans from family members and started the company. A year later, I had learned a lot about marketing to businesses, customer service, and worked on a number of interesting problems. However, I ultimately found out that marketing oneself as a "consultant" when you're only 22 is difficult task and people never took me seriously as a result. After a year I shut the business down and became a statistician at an online marketing company. In hindsight, my actions were a little reckless, but it worked out in the long run. I hope to give the B2B consulting firm another shot in a couple years, especially given that I now have experience working at an analytically advanced marketing company and have found ways to apply survival analysis (ecology), bayesian networks, and various machine learning algorithms to solve some complex online marketing problems. Given that most marketing companies are very unsophisticated, I should be able to reach a whole new market with the experience and skills I've gained.
    Last edited: Jul 17, 2013

Share This Page

Styleforum is proudly sponsored by