St. Crispin's Appreciation Thread

[jischwar]

No worries, I appreciate you at least preparing me for the possibilities haha. I would say my EG sizing is pretty close to brannock. I'm right on the border of a 9.5E/10D US Brannock and have found 9.5E UK fits me very well with most EG lasts.

Maybe I should have clarified that I think of UK as one down from US brannock i.e. 10 brannock = UK9. So by that measure you actually size up by a half on EG.

 

[Jazzmenco]

The elastic panels make these a breeze to put on and take off. Try to avoid red wine though.

 

[Jazzmenco]

Maybe I should have clarified that I think of UK as one down from US brannock i.e. 10 brannock = UK9. So by that measure you actually size up by a half on EG.

I concur. I am 10.5 US size. I take 9.5 in St. C and most other uk sizing but I take 10 in Ed Green

 

[sixstringsmash]

They're here! And they fit! A little loose in the heel but the width and room in the toes is right on point and I'm expecting the little bit of heel slip to go away once they break in a bit. Excuse the PJ'S in the picture.... I just threw them on to check the fit after getting out of work and don't plan on leaving the house like this .

 

[BColl_Has_Too_Many_Shoes]

They're here! And they fit! A little loose in the heel but the width and room in the toes is right on point and I'm expecting the little bit of heel slip to go away once they break in a bit. Excuse the PJ'S in the picture.... I just threw them on to check the fit after getting out of work and don't plan on leaving the house like this .

That's great news. When I have experienced minor heel slip, as you mentioned, that subsides quickly enough with wear.

 

[Neville Southall]

LOVE.

 

[mockingboy]

Make-up on these?

LOVE.
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[Itsuo]

Black Bison ?

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Beautiful! I'm preparing to put in an order for a similar pair shortly. Any sizing modifications compared against your normal fitting?

Is that the toe of the classic last and Vibram soles matched with the 360 Norve welt? Are you happy with the Vibrams? Any chance you can offer a comparison with the Dainites and/or the GEYO? (I like the latter but not the former, no experience with the 14mm Vibrams.)

Thank you!

 

[BomTrady]

They're here! And they fit! A little loose in the heel but the width and room in the toes is right on point and I'm expecting the little bit of heel slip to go away once they break in a bit. Excuse the PJ'S in the picture.... I just threw them on to check the fit after getting out of work and don't plan on leaving the house like this .

They are beautiful. Considering many of us wfh more and dress much more casually now, bluchers and derbies make more sense.

Did you wind up going with the same size as your EG shoes? I am asking because you noted the heel slippage and I think most (many) people go 1/2 down from EG to StC. I do I least. I just wanted to add that, in case no one else did, before you wear them outside. I purchased and wore multiple pairs of StC a half size too big for like 5 years before I realized I was going too big. This rule doesn't apply to everyone for sure and Skoak has a size chart on its webpage if you haven't seen it. 'Just my 2 cents. On second thought, I could be making the same mistake I made with my Stc and buying EG a size too large too.

Anyway, happy wear and, in any event, you've got yourself some great-looking kicks there!

 

[sixstringsmash]

They are beautiful. Considering many of us wfh more and dress much more casually now, bluchers and derbies make more sense.

Did you wind up going with the same size as your EG shoes? I am asking because you noted the heel slippage and I think most (many) people go 1/2 down from EG to StC. I do I least. I just wanted to add that, in case no one else did, before you wear them outside. I purchased and wore multiple pairs of StC a half size too big for like 5 years before I realized I was going too big. This rule doesn't apply to everyone for sure and Skoak has a size chart on its webpage if you haven't seen it. 'Just my 2 cents. On second thought, I could be making the same mistake I made with my Stc and buying EG a size too large too.

Anyway, happy wear and, in any event, you've got yourself some great-looking kicks there!

Thank you! I did end up going with my EG 202/606 size for these. I would say they are definitely a little roomier all around than my similarly sized EG's, but not to the point where it constitutes a bad fit. I would say if anything my EG's feel great when wearing thinner dress socks, but they're not nearly as comfortable and quite cramped when I'm wearing thicker midweight wool socks. With these they feel a little loose when wearing thinner dress socks but when I throw on my midweight Darn Tough socks the fit is pretty much perfect. I was actually traipsing around in them just yesterday!

 

[jischwar]

Thank you! I did end up going with my EG 202/606 size for these. I would say they are definitely a little roomier all around than my similarly sized EG's, but not to the point where it constitutes a bad fit. I would say if anything my EG's feel great when wearing thinner dress socks, but they're not nearly as comfortable and quite cramped when I'm wearing thicker midweight wool socks. With these they feel a little loose when wearing thinner dress socks but when I throw on my midweight Darn Tough socks the fit is pretty much perfect. I was actually traipsing around in them just yesterday!

I'll just make one comment and obviously you know how they feel, but typically derby style shoes shouldn't have the vamps that close. I would at least try a half size down on your next pair (make sure you can return) and see what you think

 

[sixstringsmash]

I'll just make one comment and obviously you know how they feel, but typically derby style shoes shouldn't have the vamps that close. I would at least try a half size down on your next pair (make sure you can return) and see what you think

While I don't 100% disagree with that statement, I do think a lot of how close the vamp should be comes down to the individual maker. Now these are my first pair's of StC so you all would know much better than me with how this particular manufacturer prefers to have it done, but my personal experience has been that European style makers do tend to build the vamps a lot closer together than say American style makers would. My C&J Coniston's do pretty much the same thing where the vamps basically touch each other. My Grant Stones and Aldens all have a pretty big gap between the vamps though even though the fit across each is generally the same. They all fit great though!

 

[jischwar]

While I don't 100% disagree with that statement, I do think a lot of how close the vamp should be comes down to the individual maker. Now these are my first pair's of StC so you all would know much better than me with how this particular manufacturer prefers to have it done, but my personal experience has been that European style makers do tend to build the vamps a lot closer together than say American style makers would. My C&J Coniston's do pretty much the same thing where the vamps basically touch each other. My Grant Stones and Aldens all have a pretty big gap between the vamps though even though the fit across each is generally the same. They all fit great though!

That's a fair and valid point. Enjoy them, StC makes a beautiful shoe!

 

[BColl_Has_Too_Many_Shoes]

While I don't 100% disagree with that statement, I do think a lot of how close the vamp should be comes down to the individual maker. Now these are my first pair's of StC so you all would know much better than me with how this particular manufacturer prefers to have it done, but my personal experience has been that European style makers do tend to build the vamps a lot closer together than say American style makers would. My C&J Coniston's do pretty much the same thing where the vamps basically touch each other. My Grant Stones and Aldens all have a pretty big gap between the vamps though even though the fit across each is generally the same. They all fit great though!

The premise behind the facings not touching is leather will eventually stretch with wear. The more the leather stretches the more you will need to lace them tighter and tighter. You begin with the facings too close, and there wouldn't be a method of properly lacing up your shoes to obtain a tight fitting.

To the point you made concerning different makers using varying vamps, another point to consider is that different styles of shoes and/or leathers will have more or less stretch.

You have a Derby, so you could potentially experience considerable stretch. I say that because on my derbies, an open design, I tend to yank on the laces to keep the fit very tight. I know the facings have stretched over time. Mind you this stretch is over the years, so it would not affect you immediately.

Now it may never come to pass that this would occur with your pair, but I do hope this pair, at least, provides you the required arch, heel, and ankle support (shoe opening). That support is primarily the reason most choose to purchase StCs, aside from the aesthetics of course ?.

 

[acapaca]

I was frustrated by the two-eyelet derbies I ordered from Passus (the Tom model) because they are designed, or so I was told, for the facings to fit together flush. I suppose it's reasonable, given the model/design of that shoe, but it didn't allow me to close them as tight as I would have liked. One of those nice leather tongue inserts from Skolyx helped a great deal, and now they fit fine. But I do love to be able to clamp down on the facings with derbies, since I typically prefer an overall fit that allows for more room across the joints.