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St. Crispin's Appreciation Thread

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by medtech_expat, Jul 22, 2011.

  1. jerrybrowne

    jerrybrowne Senior member

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    No, but wholecuts remind me of how underrated black shell is.
     
  2. Gianni Cerutti

    Gianni Cerutti Senior member

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    one is more beautiful than the other. .. really impressive
     
  3. wurger

    wurger Senior member

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    :slayer:, thanks PB, the cap toe oxford will be my next pair.
     
  4. sstomcat

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    black shell is a rare beauty
     
  5. wurger

    wurger Senior member

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    With my black brown CRU 609 522B, I bought because I thought it would be versatile for many different occasions. However, I find the I don't wear it much.

    During my 5 day working week, there are no occasions where black is inappropriate, and it's the colour of choice of everyone around me. And when I have meetings with the professional industry I also tend to prefer black over brown, so in the end, I just stick to black shoes due to it's easy.

    On the weekend, I have plenty of brown shoes in lighter shades, suede or pebble grain finish, in full brogue or split toe derby styles. Comparing to them, the black brown in quarter brogue is too formal, and I have not wore it once on the weekend yet.

    So the jack of all trades becomes the least used, and for my future purchases, I am sticking to black only for the more formal styles!

    Anyone else in my situation?
     
  6. stupendous

    stupendous Senior member

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    nice shoe collection PB! I especially like the austerity brogue. I believe that CRU is crust, as mentioned. The FUN ones have a bit more antiquing, and are 'less matte' in terms of finish. I have a picture of the various swatches available in SC, and that looks to be the main difference.

    Wurger,

    Interesting...I used to wear nothing but black before, but now hardly wear black, whether it is for the office or for the weekend. I think my proportion of no-black shoes to black (just for work shoes) is at least 2 non-black pairs (some shade of brown, generally) for every black pair. I have a pair of the black brown in the full brogue, and it is one of my favourites in the rotation. On the Leather Soul website, there is a picture of it with what appear to be chinos. I don't really wear it with non-office pants, but find that it does work very well with jeans and certain non-formal pants.

    I am contemplating getting a black pair of SCs. This is what I have in mind.
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    and this is a close second.....
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    I like the contrast of the grainy calf with the smooth finish. It adds a bit of visual interest. Interested in hearing your opinions.
    (borrowed the images from MTO paris).
     
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  7. patrickBOOTH

    patrickBOOTH Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I only wear black shoes, it's pretty well known here on style forum. I just think they look sleeker, and a little less distracting. They form a better line and make the look a bit more "grounded" in my opinion. While I like seeing shoes in brown and burgundy and such to me I feel that such leather items look better as furniture. My whole appearance and wardrobe is built on very subtle details and distinguishing features. I like having all black shoes in different shapes, styles, and leathers. Simply, it's just my style and I don't feel like adding variety just because variety exists. This is another reason why I love saint crispins, because all of the leathers are hand treated and such no same shoe will ever be exactly the same, you can get so much interesting variation just from the fact that it is a handmade and finished product. Even on my shell punch caps the brouging you can see some of the brown on the inside of the punching where the dye on the shell didn't penetrate all of the way through. Subtle, awesome things. Ultimately, I like habitual behavior, it allows my mind to focus on more important things.

    Those austerity brogues and Adelaide's posted are both awesome, however I would note that any grain is inherently more casual than smooth calf, that might be an issue depending on where you are wearing them, that's pretty subtle though. I'm not sure whether I want to do an Adelaide like the above without punching model 215, or model 235 in black calf
     
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  8. nyc108

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    Wurger, i would just wear the 522b to work...they're excellent Stupendous I also don't wear much black. But I tend to prefer black when done in whole cuts and captoes. PB's whole cuts exemplary . I'd get the austerity brogue in brown or burgundy and make up the captoe in black. As for the grain, it's a question of how you intend to wear them. Aesthetically the detail is v nice though.
     
  9. stupendous

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    Thanks PB. That's an interesting viewpoint. I work in finance, and travel quite often to different countries for work. While most people in my industry wear only black, as it has been pointed out here, among other places, that only black shoes can really be considered CBD, I've gone the other way, and mostly only wear brown, shades thereof, or even vintage cherry at work. Since I work in Singapore, strict CBD rules do not really apply here, for a variety of reasons.

    What you said about there being small little details in Saint Crispin shoes, even between say the right and left shoe of one pair, is so true. I was attracted to SCs primarily because of the finish (we covet what we see), and then really wanted a pair due to the solid feeling I get while wearing a pair, the little subtleties in the antiquing, and the fit - they fit me better than any of my other shoes. I wish I had the gelt to buy nothing but SCs.

    Thanks for pointing out the fact that the grain would make the shoe a bit less formal - I hadn't really considered that (although it is on the periphery of my consciousness every time I look at the shoes - like I was missing something). That is something that I will have to take into consideration when I order my black shoes.

    Thanks nyc. Appreciate the feedback. Yes, when I saw PB's wholecuts, I had to pause, 'hmmmm, now THAT's interesting!'. I actually have an MTO that I expect in February that is an austerity brogue but with a medallion toe. It is also made up of two different leathers, one smooth and the other grained, and the colors are subtly different - should be interesting. After that, I fully intend to tackle the black shoe choice issue! [​IMG]
     
  10. wurger

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    Yes, I do wear it to work, but not on the weekend, so my point is that dark/black brown isn't as versatile for me as I thought.
     
  11. patrickBOOTH

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    Fluorescent light porn
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  12. CrackedCrab

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    nice look in black Patrick

    Busting out some 522's first wear tonight.
    I originally ordered a dark green pair, they messed up the color and delivered burgundy. But I liked so I kept. and reordered green, so now have 2 522's in what I think are pretty versatile colors.

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    I just bought some amazing Saint Crispin's Chukkas in the shrunken leather. I wore them once in rain and they have these spots that will not come out. I sent it back to them to refinish the leather and after wearing once more in a light rain, they spotted again. Polish will not cover it up.

    Has anyone here experienced this with the SC Shrunken Leather?

    Should I just keep it and live with it or get a refund? It may not be that noticeable ti the passerby but I know it's there and $1660 is a lot to pay for a shoe with spotting.

    Your thoughts anyone?



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  15. SoGent

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    you absolutely should NOT even think of trying to ' live ' with spotting like that .... particularly St Crispin
    I own two StC in their shrunken calf and have never seen anything like this with mine, especially from being out in the rain.
    since StC apparently refinished them and it has happened again something is WAY off.
    how long ago was the refinish and what product(s) do you use to take care of them ?
    the leather looks dry to be honest
     
  16. NewConvert

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    I use all Saphir products. I only used an appropriate small amount of Renovateur on them. That's it. The spotting is also on the sole too. I was thinking that I may need to get some new ones made. How do you take of the SC shrunken leather? I have not even put polish on these yet.
     
  17. NewConvert

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    I use all Saphir products. I only used an appropriate small amount of Renovateur on them. That's it. The spotting is also on the sole too. I was thinking that I may need to get some new ones made. How do you take of the SC shrunken leather? I have not even put polish on these yet.
     
  18. ThinkDerm

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    acid rain does this. time to move?
     
  19. NewConvert

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    LOL. I'd rather have the SC shoes I paid for. Should I try to use more shoe conditioner to moisturize the leather?
     
  20. NewConvert

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    They refinished them a week ago. I LOVE these shoes but I am thinking of returning them and getting Gaziano's Regency:

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