St. Crispin's Appreciation Thread

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  1. chogall

    chogall Senior member

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    Email them directly. [email protected]

    Saint Crispins nowadays visits Wingtip @ SF semiannually. It's best to be fitted in person.

    I ordered mine during his truck show at Leathersoul Beverley Hills but that store was closed.
     
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  2. JeffArmoury

    JeffArmoury Affiliate Vendor Affiliate Vendor

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    I just want to clarify a few things as I think sometimes people don't understand Saint Crispin's different levels of customization completely.

    RTW: We all know what this is. Purchase a stock model in the size that you're comfortable in.

    MTO: This is taking a stock size, without any modifications to the fit, and choosing all of your details (things like leather, color, sole construction, etc).

    MTO w/ Last Adjustments: You are fit in a stock size and width but the fit could be improved through adjustments made to the last (seen in the example above).

    They actually accomplish this in a creative and cost effective way. At their factory in Brasov, Saint Crispin's has a "last park" of shoes in every size and width. On an MTO with Last adjustments they take the size that you were fit in and add cork pieces onto that last based upon the fitting pieces designated.

    To clarify, the first two adjustments on a MTO with last adjustments is 55 EUR and each additional piece is 25 EUR. This is usually simply added to the cost of the shoe and not quoted separately.

    Experience fitting is preferred from this step forward.

    MTO w/ Personal Last: Similar to the MTO with Last adjustments except in this case you are making more extensive changes. Additionally, with a personal last, you can rasp off areas of the last not just add. This is especially helpful for people with narrow heels. Also, this can be more cost effective if you plan on ordering several pairs with fit adjustments as you don't have to pay for adjustments each pair, you simply pay for the last up front.

    MTO w/ Personal Last and Trial Shoe: Same as above but a trial shoe is made in scrap leather to test your personal last and make further adjustments before putting the shoe into production.

    Hope that helps.

    Jeff
     


  3. Mr. Moo

    Mr. Moo Boxercise Toughguy

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    Thanks guys! Really helpful stuff.
     


  4. chogall

    chogall Senior member

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    Adjusting lasts ain't creative.

    Saint Crispins also offer bespoke services.

    Spare us the excessive marketing pitch kthx.
     


  5. JeffArmoury

    JeffArmoury Affiliate Vendor Affiliate Vendor

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    Never said that it was.

    That's correct.

    You quoted an incorrect price and you're constantly condescending.

    It wasn't a marketing pitch. It was laying out Saint Crispin's services, not The Armoury's.

    kthxbye.
     


  6. RogerP

    RogerP Senior member

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    Great info Jeff.

    chogall - no need to be a dick. That was detailed and helpful info for someone new to the brand.
     


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    laufer Senior member

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    Thank you both for this information. I was one of critics of St. Crispin shoes declaring them overpriced. I still think that St. Crispin shoes at RTW level are overpriced however, this "last adjustment" puts St. Crispin into a new perspective. In fact now I am inclined to give a St. Crispin a try next time Philip visits NY.
     


  8. sacafotos

    sacafotos Senior member

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    Never heard of Wingtip SF until last week. Will check them out.

    I need a pair of SCs in my life.
     


  9. venividivicibj

    venividivicibj Senior member

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    Difference of 3 mm? That's only .1 inches
     


  10. JeffArmoury

    JeffArmoury Affiliate Vendor Affiliate Vendor

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    Yep, exactly.

    That's part of the reason why the fit adjustments start at 3MM and not 1MM. Anything less than 3MM and the cork would just wear off when they go apply it to the last.

    You'd be surprised how much 3MM on each side makes. Also, in the instep where 3 -6 mm can mean the difference between a painful fit and a comfortable one. It seems ridiculous but it's actually really helpful.
     


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    patrickBOOTH Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    That can make a huge difference in shoes.
     


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    MGD83 Senior member

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    3mm could be the difference between shoes that fit like a pair of soft slippers or shoes that fit like a pair of iron maidens.
     


  13. chogall

    chogall Senior member

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    Never said that it was.

    But you did said it was. [​IMG]

    In a creative way.

    That's not a quote; I don't distribute, sell, or host trunk shows. You do, and you know the prices.

    I was stating the price I paid last year.
     


  14. chogall

    chogall Senior member

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    They don't stock Saint Crispins last time I was there; they host SC + Ambrosi trunk shows.

    I would err on the side of 5mm if I am to order again; handwork don't usually have the precision of wood turning machines.
     


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    Only one?? Come on...you're good for at least 2-3
     


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