St. Crispin's Appreciation Thread

[bamboo]

what was the issue with the shrunken calf?

http://www.styleforum.net/t/375196/saint-crispins-shrunken-leather-problems-and-questions

I hope the issue was sorted out. I am thinking of getting another pair...

 

[patrickBOOTH]



what was the issue with the shrunken calf?

If it got wet the water droplets were taking off the color. Even if it didn't it seems like the pigment wasn't adhering to it very well. It almost looked like bleach spots.

IMO, their buffalo leather looks similar, but I even think it looks a bit better than the shrunken calf, spotting aside. I am not sure if it is truly buffalo, but I just think it looks nicer.

 

[PCK1]

Can't speak on the quality of the buffalo ... but it does like quite nice on those

 

[SoGent]

If it got wet the water droplets were taking off the color. Even if it didn't it seems like the pigment wasn't adhering to it very well. It almost looked like bleach spots.

IMO, their buffalo leather looks similar, but I even think it looks a bit better than the shrunken calf, spotting aside. I am not sure if it is truly buffalo, but I just think it looks nicer.

water spots removing the color on shrunken calf isn't entirely true.
Water droplets haven't affected my pair of shrunken calf in the least.

 

[patrickBOOTH]

Ok, but many people have had issues.

 

[PCK1]

Ok, but many people have had issues.

True....and I remember pretty recently Che at Leffot telling me that StC was still having issues with the shrunken calf...as Leffot had stocked the chukka in shrunken calf and the leather was defective.

 

[SoGent]

Nah, I'm not willing to buy into a potential urban myth based on a single chukka with a finish problem
Nor do I automatically accept that the damaged finish on one shoe shown earlier in this thread was solely from water
and is indicative of a systemic problem with St C finishes or the leather in general

 

[DWFII]



   water spots removing the color on shrunken calf isn't entirely true.
   Water droplets haven't affected my pair of shrunken calf in the least.

Nah, I'm not willing to buy into a potential urban myth based on a single chukka with a finish problem
Nor do I automatically accept that the damaged finish on one shoe shown earlier in this thread was solely from water
and is indicative of a systemic problem with St C finishes or the leather in general

It is hard to believe. But it is possible. Some finishes are water soluble. Also keep in mind that shoemakers are constantly changing their sources for various reasons...cost of raw materials is just one. You could have gotten a pair of shoes from a previous lot of hides coming from a different tannery.

I would ordinarily say that the owner spilled acetone on the shoes but if I'm not mistaken there were other examples.

??

 

[SoGent]

It is hard to believe. But it is possible. Some finishes are water soluble. Also keep in mind that shoemakers are constantly changing their sources for various reasons...cost of raw materials is just one. You could have gotten a pair of shoes from a previous lot of hides coming from a different tannery.

I would ordinarily say that the owner spilled acetone on the shoes but if I'm not mistaken there were other examples.

??

I don't discount the notion entirely, absolutely anything is possible. Personally, I've only seen a single example
which doesn't qualify as 'many' in my world

 

[patrickBOOTH]



Nah, I'm not willing to buy into a potential urban myth based on a single chukka with a finish problem
Nor do I automatically accept that the damaged finish on one shoe shown earlier in this thread was solely from water
and is indicative of a systemic problem with St C finishes or the leather in general

You're either an idiot, or in denial. It has happened to many people. Apparently Saint Crispins acknowledged it.

 

[SoGent]

You're either an idiot, or in denial. It has happened to many people. Apparently Saint Crispins acknowledged it.

no, not denial . . . . just wondering where the actual evidence of 'many' is other than air moving from someone's mouth
the idiot part does usually indicate a weak position or a weak mind to begin with so I'll stick with my story until I see the 'many' examples.

 

[patrickBOOTH]

I'm going with both. An idiot in denial.

If a retailer says they have had several issues what more do you want? Phone calls from all the owners? Pull your head out of your ass.

 

[MoosicPa]



   no, not denial . . . . just wondering where the actual evidence of 'many' is other than air moving from someone's mouth
   the idiot part does usually indicate a weak position or a weak mind to begin with so I'll stick with my story until I see the 'many' examples.

+1

 

[patrickBOOTH]

I would like to disclose that I have "many" testicles. Actual amount up for interpretation.

 

[SoGent]

come on. I like to at least think you're intelligent enough to know that pebbles can't grow up to become stones. the reverse is their only capability.

one of these days i'll take the time to search the problem for more than the single example that shows up this particular forum in hopes it can validate the single retailer. until then, i'll rely on my 2 pair of the 'problem' leather to continue to trudge through somehow.