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  1. CunningSmeagol

    CunningSmeagol Senior member

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    I like to squat nude, or at least bottomless if the gym is conservative, so that I can feel when I've gone low enough.
     


  2. hendrix

    hendrix Ill-proportioned

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    Thanks for the tips Hendrix, I'll definitely keep that in mind. Diet is probably the most difficult thing, just picking what to eat and not necessarily how much since I pretty much stay within the caloric intake my body needs. I mostly do cardio now really (ie: P90X and Insanity but not every day) but I believe I have receive the wrong info that if I wanted to get toned, I can lift with more reps but less weight. I have been doing it for a while, maybe a year now and it really hasn't gotten me anywhere. I am a bit lost because I am 5'9.5"-5'10" and my weight ranges from 135-140 lbs and I feel like I need to build more muscle but again without bulking up. I'm afraid if I do more extreme cardio/HIIT that I would just go down in weight even more. I'll give the 5x5 a shot.
    I don't want to sound like one of those "if-you're-this-height-you-should be-this-weight" dudes cos they're idiots, but at your stats you could easily put on 15lbs in lean muscle and not have to worry about getting bulky at all. You wouldn't grow out of any of your clothes. And since you're not concerned about bulking up, you can just alter your diet depending on whether you think you're getting too bulky or not. You'll probably want to eat a bit more since you'll be using a lot more energy. Here's Bill Starr's routine http://startingstrength.wikia.com/wiki/Bill_Starr_5x5. There are other 5x5s such as Starting Strength which also work very well. have a read. You could sub the bench presses for dumbbell bench presses, as there's anecdotal evidence that barbell flat bench increases size better, but dumbbells keep proportions nicer (uses more of smaller muscles) [dubious and probably not much difference at all, just a suggestion].
     


  3. RFX45

    RFX45 Senior member

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    Great info, thank you very much for the help. I highly appreciate it.
     


  4. Rikkar501

    Rikkar501 Senior member

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    Thanks for the info.

    However, if I want to be more toned and cut overall, and not necessarily buff or get stronger or get bigger arms/thighs, is squats still ideal? Also, can you get the same benefits if I do squats without weights?

    It's just I am pretty happy with how my clothes fit but I could use some toning up with out bulking up too much, ie: getting bigger arms or thighs. Should I try and incorporate squats?


    Squats have a place in any workout routine.

    The only way to "tone and cut" is through diet and fat loss. Light weight and high reps to "cut" your muscles are absolute bullshit; only by reducing the fat under your skin and around your muscles can you have that "cut" look.
     


  5. Cary Grant

    Cary Grant Senior member

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    I like to squat nude, or at least bottomless if the gym is conservative, so that I can feel when I've gone low enough.

    It's not humanly possible to squat that low. [​IMG]
     


  6. db_ggmm

    db_ggmm Senior member

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    At 5'10 140, your only concern is getting stronger. The rest will sort itself out (not joking).

    stronglifts.com
     


  7. sonick

    sonick Senior member

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    It's not humanly possible to squat that low. [​IMG]
    Not if you are Mandingo.
     


  8. Morgan

    Morgan Senior member

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    I've been doing a basic 5x5 type workout since New Years (yes, I actually stuck with my resolution for 5 1/2 months so far!). Each workout begins with either squats or deadlifts, then a mix of other basic moves - bench press, overhead press, pullups, etc.

    My strength increased consistently and I put on maybe 5-10 pounds of muscle over 5 months. I was thrilled, but recently my knees began to ache. Sometimes the pain occurs while I am doing the deadlift or squat, but not usually. The pain will typically strike at random later in the day, while I am walking to lunch, or walking home from work. It's not a sharp pain, but deep and sometimes intense - like I have to sit down because I can't walk intense. It soon passes and I hobble on, then I'm walking normally five minutes later. I consult Beginning Strength regularly and try to be rigorous about my form, but I think I must be doing something wrong. What is the most likely cause here? Am I just getting old?

    If it helps, I am 33 years old, 5'11" and about 165 lb. I've always been slim and not particularly strong, but I've always worked out enough to stay in moderate shape. This is is the first time I've followed a really structured plan to get stronger, as opposed to just going to the gym to do some lifting and/or cardio, which has never injured me before.
     


  9. hendrix

    hendrix Ill-proportioned

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    see a physio. take a couple of weeks off gym.
     


  10. Jay687

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    At your height and weight, I'd stop trying to tone. I doubt you have a terrible bf% and I'd bet the main reason you don't looked toned is because you simply lack muscle mass. Take the time to gain weight slowly and lift hard, you'll be happy in the end if you can push your weight up to at least 150+.

    Good luck.

    And to answer the squat question: go as far as your flexibility takes you.
     


  11. Morgan

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  12. innerstyle

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    What is a "physio"? Physical therapist?

    I've laid off the squats and deadlifts for a couple weeks now.


    It's good you stopped and you definitely should not ignore knee pain. I'd recommend you watch the squat rx videos on youtube, you're bound to learn something that will improve your form. Here's the first one:

     


  13. JoelF

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    It's just I am pretty happy with how my clothes fit

    Amazes me how often clothes fit comes up as a "fitness" criterion on SF. If you work out effectively and get in better shape (tons of good info on that in this subforum) you will look better overall, assuming you're not a marothoner or something similar. Seems like that should be the end of story.
     


  14. Brian SD

    Brian SD Moderator

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    Looking at that Rippetoe instruction video, the guy doing the squats has the weights lower behind his neck and sticks his chin out forward a lot more than I do. Is that good? I thought you were supposed to maintain a completely straight posture, and I've been resting the weights on my traps, not quite so low.
     


  15. Davidko19

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    ass 2 grass

    My man nailed it. A2G. I go as deep I can, less than parallel for sure. Some guys can actually touch their ass to their heels, which amazes me. If you put the safety bars up you should feel confident in at leaast trying
     


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