SPIER & MACKAY - Official Affiliate Thread

[Wilson13]

Or we can do a group GMTO for those still interested. We were going to hand on to the cloth and do an early Spring release in January.

Does that mean sizing would be limited to OTR options? Sorry, never done GMTO before. If that's the case, selfishly, I prefer MTM, but I'm obviously not the only one interested.

 

[Wilson13]

The hips have always been an issue for me with shirts, because my hip is bigger than chest/shoulders.

I'm aiming for a hybrid untucked/tucked fit.

It's after the first wash and I requested wash/dry before cutting so I think it may be ok.

The fabric is: IF-1991-MTM

You can also find it under: Texture --> Herringbone

You're gonna shoulder press/lateral raise/etc. that problem to oblivion...

 

[Neutral]

Here's my experience with the 42R Contemporary and Slim jackets. If there's one thing S&M needs to perfect, it's consistency in product. When I look at the three unaltered jackets hanging in my closet, two of them 42R C and one of the 42R S, there's a visible difference in all three. One is too long and big all around, the other is the perfect fit, and the last one is too short and tight.

The measurements on the website between the contemporary and slim jackets have a very, very minor difference (something around 0.3"); but when I tried on the 42R Slim, it was a much bigger difference than the measurements online lead me to believe.

In a nutshell, there is no concise answer here. The best way to figure out if the jacket will fit is to order it and try it on. And until S&M gets sizing consistency right, you and I will have to order + return to get every new jacket right - and in my case - if it's OOS and I really want it, send it off to the tailor and hope they'll work some magic on it!

EDIT: The safest thing to do is always to order the Contemporary and have the tailor adjust it to how you want it to look.

Thank you, I appreciate it.

 

[spiermackay]

Hi all,

Would anyone be so kind, or be bale to, speak on the difference of fit between the contemporary and slim sport jacket fits? I have two slims in size 42R and they fit pretty well, but I have to have the waist taken in quite a bit, and I wouldn't want to see it much bigger elsewhere. A 40R gets too tight in my shoulder causing a protrusion, and is too tight across my upper back.

Does the contemporary only add room slightly in the wait circumference and length, as noted in the size guide? Or will it be roomier in the chest piece, arms, lower arm hole, etc. as well?

What I'm really wondering is if a contemporary would work as a sub for the slim if the slim is already on the roomier side through the torso?

Thank you to anyone who might have some insight!

They are made on different pattern blocks and graded differently, so there isn't a direct correlation between the two. Generally, the contemporary is cut with bigger proportions everywhere. If the shoulder of the 40R is not fitting you well, that means stick to the 42.

 

[spiermackay]

Here's my experience with the 42R Contemporary and Slim jackets. If there's one thing S&M needs to perfect, it's consistency in product. When I look at the three unaltered jackets hanging in my closet, two of them 42R C and one of the 42R S, there's a visible difference in all three. One is too long and big all around, the other is the perfect fit, and the last one is too short and tight.

The measurements on the website between the contemporary and slim jackets have a very, very minor difference (something around 0.3"); but when I tried on the 42R Slim, it was a much bigger difference than the measurements online lead me to believe.

In a nutshell, there is no concise answer here. The best way to figure out if the jacket will fit is to order it and try it on. And until S&M gets sizing consistency right, you and I will have to order + return to get every new jacket right - and in my case - if it's OOS and I really want it, send it off to the tailor and hope they'll work some magic on it!

EDIT: The safest thing to do is always to order the Contemporary and have the tailor adjust it to how you want it to look.

The degree of consistency you're looking for only exists in very small batch manufacturing. There is always going to be manufacturing tolerances from season to to season, fabric to fabric and from factory to factory. Measurements are a fair guideline and a good gauge, but there is a +/- variation (generally 1 cm). If you have one jacket on the + side and the other jacket on the - side of the variation, then naturally, when comparing the two you will see/feel a noticeable difference. I'm not saying this as an excuse, this is just how any mass manufacturing in apparel works. The same is said for Suitsupply or J.Crew or Bonobos or anyone at a similar price point. We try to price the items to take into account a bit of tailoring on every piece so that even after tailoring, you're still ahead of the game. Some pieces you will need to let out, others will need to be nipped in.

 

[Neutral]

They are made on different pattern blocks and graded differently, so there isn't a direct correlation between the two. Generally, the contemporary is cut with bigger proportions everywhere. If the shoulder of the 40R is not fitting you well, that means stick to the 42.

Thank you!

 

[dluce76]

Last one on IG looks great, but I'm all in for the gun club.

 

[Nemesis_4]

Last one on IG looks great, but I'm all in for the gun club.

Agreed on gun club, the green was also amazing.

 

[MisterrLovely]

The degree of consistency you're looking for only exists in very small batch manufacturing. There is always going to be manufacturing tolerances from season to to season, fabric to fabric and from factory to factory. Measurements are a fair guideline and a good gauge, but there is a +/- variation (generally 1 cm). If you have one jacket on the + side and the other jacket on the - side of the variation, then naturally, when comparing the two you will see/feel a noticeable difference. I'm not saying this as an excuse, this is just how any mass manufacturing in apparel works. The same is said for Suitsupply or J.Crew or Bonobos or anyone at a similar price point. We try to price the items to take into account a bit of tailoring on every piece so that even after tailoring, you're still ahead of the game. Some pieces you will need to let out, others will need to be nipped in.

Thanks, S&M for telling it the way it is. ??

 

[RickyTakhar]

Here is my latest MTM shirt.

Unfortunately, I'm now learning that slim fit shirts on my body type proobably aren't the greatest idea, so thinking about moving towards more of the contemporary fit.

I'm open to feedback as to what kind of silhouette would look good on my body type, because I have no idea.

Is it even a good idea to go MTM at the moment as I started weight training? I predict this shirt will be tight in 6 months.

@RickyTakhar
@Burzan

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Too slim imo, sleeve length a little short also. Lower back needs some work, if your starting out in your fitness journey the shirt will be tight in a few months and unwearable in 6

 

[dfagdfsh]

neo fresco suit, linen popover

 

[JustinW]

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neo fresco suit, linen popover

Nice suit!

What boots are those?

 

[dfagdfsh]

ron rider MTO chelseas in polo suede

 

[saskatoonjay]

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neo fresco suit, linen popover

You look so Italiano with those lapels. Great cuffs on the trousers, too.

 

[emergency & me]

Has anyone gone through the refund process before? I returned some items and they arrived on the 14th after which I received an email asking if I'd like a refund via store credit or to my payment card. I haven't yet received my refund.