Rugger
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Why is the zipper on the parkas on the wrong side? Is that a canadian thing? @spiermackay @SpierTeam
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You know the deal my man. We need fit pics. What was your initial (regular) size and how much did you need to go up to?Happy to report sizing up on the new (well, now outdated) Neo yielded a notably better fit. The sleevehead still doesn’t fully agree with my frame, but the issue is diminished with the slight widened shoulders.
Will be curious to see how the updated iteration works.
I seriously hope @spiermackay is not taking style advice for their products based on comments made by a few random dudes on the internet. Some of the commenters could very well be like this guy:If @Riva was here he would say the pant waist should have elastane in them instead of both belt loops and side tabs to keep up with the times
Your attention to detail pays off .... looks great!I moved the buttons on my C23 large Italian button down collar shirt and think it makes the collar even better.
I moved them 1/4” out from center, and 1/4” down.
So it still rolls really great but the shape when buttoned is just a little more spread.
Here are pics comparing before/after with the same outfit.
Rick said I should be able to request this change from the factory going forward, but he told me there's a special way to take the measurement and specify it in the comments. I'll report back when I find out what that is in case anybody else is interested.Rick is following up with the factory, as the button placement on this collar should be more like what I've done to it. Sounds like he's going to have them update the default button placing to give it a wider, lower roll (somewhat like my after picture).
I also plan to have them cut this collar with 1/2" tie space in the future, which I also think will improve it.
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I seriously hope @spiermackay is not taking style advice for their products based on comments made by a few random dudes on the internet. Some of the commenters could very well be like this guy:
30-year-old dog walker/reddit mod
That's a really nice jacket. Looks great!Just received this in the mail - it is the recent Bottoli POW for SS. The armhole is definitely higher than my SS21 Neo jacket. However, it is wearable and I don’t think I’ll notice it much over time. I’m keeping it! View attachment 1744466
He’d prolly enjoy the sweatsSomething tells me that the guy in your video - and people like him - isn't particularly concerned with classic menswear or dressing well in general, btw.
Stoppppppppp this thinking, please. SM isn't stupid, and we aren't that important lol. They're not trashing what's working to accommodate us, nor should they. They DO, to their credit, engage with the customer base, which has presumably been to the benefit of their bottom line and the happiness of said customers.I seriously hope @spiermackay is not taking style advice for their products based on comments made by a few random dudes on the internet. Some of the commenters could very well be like this guy:
30-year-old dog walker/reddit mod
It may well be the shirt being untucked, but that looks mighty short.Just received this in the mail - it is the recent Bottoli POW for SS. The armhole is definitely higher than my SS21 Neo jacket. However, it is wearable and I don’t think I’ll notice it much over time. I’m keeping it! View attachment 1744466
Latest releases like hoodies, sweatpants, overshirts, easy pants, etc seem to indicate SM wants this demographic!!Give S&M and Rick a little credit. They know what they're doing, and are more than capable of distinguishing between good or interesting suggestions and random weirdos talking out of their behinds. The interactions between Rick and SF have mostly been fruitful discussions, and not just people decreeing what they want and S&M meekly delivering.
Something tells me that the guy in your video - and people like him - isn't particularly concerned with classic menswear or dressing well in general, btw.
Latest releases like hoodies, sweatpants, overshirts, easy pants, etc seem to indicate SM wants this demographic!!
a one-stop shop for their existing customer base
I'm not sure if this is entirely true but Rick did mention ages ago when we were all discussing SM's debut undergarment range that it was all about ABS (average basket size) in the Ecommerce space.
If they already have the production capacity and means in place to launch certain items to grow that metric then he will seriously look at it. Does that mean they become a one stop shop? I personally hope not.
I can find value elsewhere for my basics but as Rick has already reminded me - I'm not his target demographic for those items. I'm here for the jackets, shirts & trousers and I would suspect that would be the case for most of us in this thread.