SPIER & MACKAY - Official Affiliate Thread

[c.bisesar]

I agree, kind of looks a bit baggy so a medium will do you well.
As for the 1/4 zip, do you have any older S&M knitwear? If so how would it compare to last year's sweaters? I wear a small in the crew necks and XS in turtlenecks, so just want to know if I should also size down for 1/4 zips as well to XS or stick to Small before ordering in a week or so

Unfortunately I haven't got any any of their older sweaters. I ordered a bunch of their v-neck sweaters mid last year in large and I recall them being about the same size as the large quarter zip I've got now, but it was quite a while back and I returned them because the neck was far too deep to wear standalone so I would take that with a grain of salt.

So you went with your normal size for the sweaters, or sized up?

In this case, I technically sized up by getting a large. Charts and Instagram comments suggested a medium for a 40, but I typically wear large when I get S&M t-shirts and polos so I took a gamble.

 

[breakaway01]

Another low quality shot of a high quality shawl cardigan!

I’m around 5’9” and 160 lbs. I wear a 36 Contemporary jacket and a medium in last year’s knitwear (crew necks, v necks and lightweight cardigan). Disregarding my previous sweater size and the sizing guide on the website, I with Rick’s/Instagram’s advice of SIZING DOWN to a small and am glad I did.

In my opinion, it fits well. The back extends about halfway down the seat of my pants. The only thing I’m unsure of (which I would be interested in hearing other opinions on, especially if anyone else experienced the same fit) is that there seems to be a couple of inches of fabric which bunches up and “folds” where the chest meets the sleeve.

I’m in the minority here clearly, but I think this is a little small/tight. See the tension on the placket when it’s buttoned up? Honestly think @c.bisesar ’s sweater fits better.

 

[chenzhongbi]

Another low quality shot of a high quality shawl cardigan!

I’m around 5’9” and 160 lbs. I wear a 36 Contemporary jacket and a medium in last year’s knitwear (crew necks, v necks and lightweight cardigan). Disregarding my previous sweater size and the sizing guide on the website, I with Rick’s/Instagram’s advice of SIZING DOWN to a small and am glad I did.

In my opinion, it fits well. The back extends about halfway down the seat of my pants. The only thing I’m unsure of (which I would be interested in hearing other opinions on, especially if anyone else experienced the same fit) is that there seems to be a couple of inches of fabric which bunches up and “folds” where the chest meets the sleeve.

*EDIT: Just tried it on again and it’s a dream. I was being too knitpicky (cardigan-wearing-dad joke intended) before. Likely no one but me would notice any oddly excess fabric. I was even able to actually roll the shawl collar a little more to put more of the chest chunk into the chunky collar. There’s almost no excess in the sleeve length now that I’ve sized down, but that’ll work well with dress shirts cuffs, and I’m sure the sleeves on these things could stretch a little, too. I would be worried about shrinking in the wash but honestly don’t think I’ll machine wash this.*

While I’d originally hoped for a deeper forest/emerald green this Moss green is also pretty cool. What are everyone’s thoughts on this colour?

I think the fit is spot on. Based on your sizing suggestion, I should get small as well but just discovered that the smalls are all gone in the off white color. Guess I'll be waiting patiently for any returns then
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[Poser Hoser]

I’m in the minority here clearly, but I think this is a little small/tight. See the tension on the placket when it’s buttoned up? Honestly think @c.bisesar ’s sweater fits better.

To each their own, but regarding your comment about tension on the placket, I can confidently tell you there is none - the small is fairly roomy around my shirt waist. The reason for the curve in the placket, which I believe is what you’re referring to, is that the shawl collar is heavy, and when it’s worn open like this (top button or technically top two buttons undone) with the shawl sitting lower on the shoulder, the placket shifts accordingly. If I wear it buttoned up, the placket is straight. If I went with my usual medium, I think the fit would be extremely relaxed, and not very tailored looking; it all depends on the look you’re going for. All of that said, I will say this size down from my usual has everything shorter than I’m used to *in jackets*. This Small cardigan only extends to my wrists, whereas my contemporary jackets from Spier extend to my thumb knuckle region. Though I’m not sure comparing sweaters to jackets is helpful; just trying to help anyone looking for as much info as possible on sizing.

 

[Ebichuman]

To each their own, but regarding your comment about tension on the placket, I can confidently tell you there is none - the small is fairly roomy around my shirt waist. The reason for the curve in the placket, which I believe is what you’re referring to, is that the shawl collar is heavy, and when it’s worn open like this (top button or technically top two buttons undone) with the shawl sitting lower on the shoulder, the placket shifts accordingly. If I wear it buttoned up, the placket is straight. If I went with my usual medium, I think the fit would be extremely relaxed, and not very tailored looking; it all depends on the look you’re going for. All of that said, I will say this size down from my usual has everything shorter than I’m used to *in jackets*. This Small cardigan only extends to my wrists, whereas my contemporary jackets from Spier extend to my thumb knuckle region. Though I’m not sure comparing sweaters to jackets is helpful; just trying to help anyone looking for as much info as possible on sizing.

Thanks for the info. It’s great to get POV from many people. The cardigans overall look a bit too long in the body and possibly too short in sleeves to my eye. Still, I am tempted to add one to my wardrobe.

 

[orange fury]

I’m in the minority here clearly, but I think this is a little small/tight. See the tension on the placket when it’s buttoned up? Honestly think @c.bisesar ’s sweater fits better.

I don’t think that’s tension from being too small- it looks like it’s a combination of only two buttons being done and the weight of the cardigan. You can see some excess material in the chest, and that’s with what looks like an ocbd underneath.

edit: I should’ve kept reading apparently, I see @Poser Hoser said exactly the same thing I was thinking lol

 

[dluce76]

Are the covert fabrics available for MTO? I've always had issues w RTW fit and have completely dialed in my MTO fit.

 

[Poser Hoser]

I don’t think that’s tension from being too small- it looks like it’s a combination of only two buttons being done and the weight of the cardigan. You can see some excess material in the chest, and that’s with what looks like an ocbd underneath.

edit: I should’ve kept reading apparently, I see @Poser Hoser said exactly the same thing I was thinking lol

Bang on, @orange fury ! Looking at all of the shots posted so far, it seems to me that if one wants a more tailored fit, they should size down; for a relaxed fit, stick with your usual size perhaps? I think the fit of @masernaut ’s cardigan is great, personally. Perhaps he could even just wash his and get the shorter length he’s looking for? And while I don’t think the fit of @c.bisesar ’s cardigan is too far off, what I notice is the drastic shoulder seam that extends below his armpits, which suggests to me that he could definitely size down.

 

[masernaut]

Thanks for the info. It’s great to get POV from many people. The cardigans overall look a bit too long in the body and possibly too short in sleeves to my eye. Still, I am tempted to add one to my wardrobe.

In a nutshell, that is what I'm experiencing. Short sleeves, long body. An ideal fit for someone who has a long torso but short arms!

 

[emiratiAL]

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Just dropped.

Waiting patiently for the OCBD restock ? @spiermackay

That is a beautiful piece.

I love the earthy-brown pallete. Will look great with blues, browns and greys. Lovely.

 

[nqtri]

My cream chunky cardigan just got shipped. Glad I went to the small. Really excited now. Thanks for all the photos.

 

[XxLogo]

In a nutshell, that is what I'm experiencing. Short sleeves, long body. An ideal fit for someone who has a long torso but short arms!

I have a feeling the chunkyness of the sweater is what leans it to being too long, which is probably a good thing as it will definitely keep you warm looking at all of the pics lol

 

[Riva]

I tried on high rise trousers once, and I just couldn't take myself seriously. I think others can look great in them, including many SF members who post fit pics. But as I mentioned in my last post, my social context (including the hyper-casual dress "code" at my office) makes the high rise thing unappealing to me. Mid rise all the way.

And it's fine if you have a high natural waist and want to wear a highrise except that most of the pics posted in SF looked dispropotionate without the shirt at least monotoned to the pants. Trend overshadows basic deficiencies reduction.

 

[Burzan]

Marling & Evans jacket and tobacco fresco trousers.

 

[mbb355]

Marling & Evans jacket and tobacco fresco trousers.

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Great jacket. Also love that square!