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Seeking some guidance on what to do with this Linen-Cotton polo.

I purchased it in the spring second-hand - pretty sure it's the Summer 2023 version. I didn't wear it most of the summer, and was even thinking about selling it. I like the fit & fabric, but I find that the plackets are really wide and create a weird boxy my head's resting on a table kind of look.

Am I crazy for thinking that it looks odd? Is there a trick to getting the corners of the plackets to maybe curl in a little without pressing a crease into it?

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For comparison, this is a vintage Emporio Armani Merino wool polo sweater that has a smaller placket and much more natural curve to it.

Edit: So after posting this and looking at it for a few minutes, I've decided I do not like the placket and will be selling. Check my Poshmark page if interested in purchasing. Forum users will get a special discount. Thanks!
 
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Do all the Polo coats fit the same? On some, the website advises that they fit trim, on some others i.e. the pure camel polo coat, there is no such statement.
 

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Seeking some guidance on what to do with this Linen-Cotton polo.

I purchased it in the spring second-hand - pretty sure it's the Summer 2023 version. I didn't wear it most of the summer, and was even thinking about selling it. I like the fit & fabric, but I find that the plackets are really wide and create a weird boxy my head's resting on a table kind of look.

Am I crazy for thinking that it looks odd? Is there a trick to getting the corners of the plackets to maybe curl in a little without pressing a crease into it?

View attachment 2280647
For comparison, this is a vintage Emporio Armani Merino wool polo sweater that has a smaller placket and much more natural curve to it.

Edit: So after posting this and looking at it for a few minutes, I've decided I do not like the placket and will be selling. Check my Poshmark page if interested in purchasing. Forum users will get a special discount. Thanks!

Not sure I get the critique. It looks much better than the second shirt.
 

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I've read reviews, taken measurements and generally scoured the internet trying to figure out my right size in various garments at S&M. It's really difficult to get a proper sense without trying on though. I think I'll have to order some different sizes to try on, e.g. M and L in sweaters, 15.5/35 and 16/35 in contemporary and same in slim for shirts, etc. Do anyone know how first time returns work? Could I in theory, if nothing fits, return everything, without charge? Would like to dial this in properly from the get-go so that I can order with more confidence later on.
 

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Looks like you can try everything once.

Assuming you live in the States (prices vary by location):

For customers located in the USA, we offer a free return on your first purchase of a Suit/Sport Coat, Shoes, Dress & Casual Trousers, Outerwear, Knitwear and Dress & Casual Shirts. After your first purchase, then the following return fees will be deducted from your refund:

  • $7.95 per return order for shirts, trousers, knitwear, accessories, shoes, and small items
  • $14.95 for suits, sport coats, outerwear, & tailored clothing
  • $5.95 restocking fee for any nested suit for which a trouser swap was requested and returned
In addition, the following restocking fees will apply for any returned item that is missing the following components:

  • $5 restocking fee for any item that is returned with the tags and stitches missing
  • $5 restocking fee for any item that is shipped with a hanger and returned without the hanger (e.g. suit, sport coat, outerwear)
  • $5 restocking fee for any item that is shipped with a garment bag and returned without the garment bag (e.g. suit, sport coat, outerwear)
Trouser Swaps (Please note that our dress trousers have extra fabric in the waistband that can be let out up to 1.5 inches by a tailor. A tailor can also take in the waist & seat or taper the trouser legs if they are slightly too loose on you)

      • If this is your first time purchasing a suit from us, and you would like to exchange the trousers for a different size, then a restocking fee of $5.95 will apply.
      • If this is not your first suit purchase from us and you would like to exchange the trousers for a different size, then a return fee of $5.95 will apply, as well as a restocking fee of $5.95.
 

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I'm really considering the waxed touring jacket - https://www.spierandmackay.com/product/navy---waxed-touring-jacket-10058-wax-02

Hard to tell, but does it have side pockets like a lot of the other jackets S&M is selling? If you want to put your hands into pockets, do you have to unbutton the bottom flaps? I also wear 42 and M, but this is listed as M40 and L42 — I figured out with the chore jackets that M fits well and L is bulky, but I also can't easily layer under a M, so my last question for yall is: is this kind of jacket really only for cold months and for layering or does the removable shell make it work for warmer spring temperatures? Not sure I want to buy both and pick one to keep, just want to get the order over with in one go.
 

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Looks like you can try everything once.

Assuming you live in the States (prices vary by location):

For customers located in the USA, we offer a free return on your first purchase of a Suit/Sport Coat, Shoes, Dress & Casual Trousers, Outerwear, Knitwear and Dress & Casual Shirts. After your first purchase, then the following return fees will be deducted from your refund:

  • $7.95 per return order for shirts, trousers, knitwear, accessories, shoes, and small items
  • $14.95 for suits, sport coats, outerwear, & tailored clothing
  • $5.95 restocking fee for any nested suit for which a trouser swap was requested and returned
In addition, the following restocking fees will apply for any returned item that is missing the following components:

  • $5 restocking fee for any item that is returned with the tags and stitches missing
  • $5 restocking fee for any item that is shipped with a hanger and returned without the hanger (e.g. suit, sport coat, outerwear)
  • $5 restocking fee for any item that is shipped with a garment bag and returned without the garment bag (e.g. suit, sport coat, outerwear)
Trouser Swaps (Please note that our dress trousers have extra fabric in the waistband that can be let out up to 1.5 inches by a tailor. A tailor can also take in the waist & seat or taper the trouser legs if they are slightly too loose on you)

      • If this is your first time purchasing a suit from us, and you would like to exchange the trousers for a different size, then a restocking fee of $5.95 will apply.
      • If this is not your first suit purchase from us and you would like to exchange the trousers for a different size, then a return fee of $5.95 will apply, as well as a restocking fee of $5.95.
Thank you John! Yes, I do live in the US. I think what I'm a little confused about is the use of the word "a". I'm assuming they mean that I could return for example two sweaters, two suits, two shirts, etc, and not just one. Maybe I'm overthinking it, occupational hazard of being a lawyer I guess. Tried to reach out to customer support but haven't heard back yet, so thought I'd check to see if anyone has any experience.
 

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I'm really considering the waxed touring jacket - https://www.spierandmackay.com/product/navy---waxed-touring-jacket-10058-wax-02

Hard to tell, but does it have side pockets like a lot of the other jackets S&M is selling? If you want to put your hands into pockets, do you have to unbutton the bottom flaps? I also wear 42 and M, but this is listed as M40 and L42 — I figured out with the chore jackets that M fits well and L is bulky, but I also can't easily layer under a M, so my last question for yall is: is this kind of jacket really only for cold months and for layering or does the removable shell make it work for warmer spring temperatures? Not sure I want to buy both and pick one to keep, just want to get the order over with in one go.
No side pockets, only patch pockets. I am thinking about modifying mine and adding side pockets.

I wear suits in size 38 and went with Touring jacket in size 38.

You can also remove the puffer vest and wear it in spring too
 

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Hello,

The online size chart indicates that the measurements of the sport shirt is the same as dress shirt for the same fit/neck size. Do you find this to be the case?

I have purchased a sport shirt once in the past and the abdominal/waist area was too tight compared to the many S&M dress shirts I have in the same fit/neck size. I am wondering if my experience with the sport shirt was due to a defect.

Thank you!
 
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I have this in navy. It's a FW weight and definitely has a FW feel and look to it. It's reminiscent of flannel in the sense that it's brushed and fuzzy. Hopsack is an open weave, so it's more breathable than a tighter counterpart.

Here are pics of it, one with a wool knit tie and another with a silk knit tie. Also one close up. View attachment 2278255 View attachment 2278257
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In my opinion, if you're looking for a brown or solid brown SC for FW, there are better alternatives more suited for the FW season. If you have the basics covered, however, it's a good choice.
This picture might have actually convinced me that I need the brown version- and I haven't bought a new sportcoat in several years! (Been about three years since my last Spier purchase as well).

A few years back I bought the M&E dark gray wool/linen hopsack as an MTO and it's one of my favor Spier pieces.
 

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Anyone happen to have experience with the wool/cashmere soft parkas? Im considering a charcoal one as a sort of do it all coat, seems with the hood it's a little but casual but without could go over a suit. I'm wondering how warm it really is, how it fits (do you buy your suit size or size up like on some other coats) and if it is something that could protect from some snow or if this is the sort of thing you don't want any kind of elements getting on. I realize you shouldn't wear it in rain. Thanks for any info
Sorry asking again as I'd like to pull the trigger on one but can't find any info on the fit
 

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Anyone happen to have experience with the wool/cashmere soft parkas? Im considering a charcoal one as a sort of do it all coat, seems with the hood it's a little but casual but without could go over a suit. I'm wondering how warm it really is, how it fits (do you buy your suit size or size up like on some other coats) and if it is something that could protect from some snow or if this is the sort of thing you don't want any kind of elements getting on. I realize you shouldn't wear it in rain. Thanks for any info

I have the charcoal soft parka you are looking at. It is fairly warm and I'd say is well-suited to the coldest winter weather where I am (~35-40F) but I wouldn't use it for anything colder than that. I bought the parka in a size 42, and it fits well for layering with knitware or a shirt but I'd size up if you're looking to wear it over a suit (I'm a size 42 Slim for Sport Coats). I can't comment on your question about snow as it doesn't snow where I am but I'd say generally that wool is naturally somewhat water-resistant.

One last thing to note is that while the hood is removable I think it looks better in general with the hood on.

I'm really considering the waxed touring jacket - https://www.spierandmackay.com/product/navy---waxed-touring-jacket-10058-wax-02

Hard to tell, but does it have side pockets like a lot of the other jackets S&M is selling? If you want to put your hands into pockets, do you have to unbutton the bottom flaps? I also wear 42 and M, but this is listed as M40 and L42 — I figured out with the chore jackets that M fits well and L is bulky, but I also can't easily layer under a M, so my last question for yall is: is this kind of jacket really only for cold months and for layering or does the removable shell make it work for warmer spring temperatures? Not sure I want to buy both and pick one to keep, just want to get the order over with in one go.

Sorry - not trying to trollbait here, but with this being the same price as a Barbour Bedale at MSRP (and currently it's looking like you can get the Bedale on sale for around $300USD), what is the value proposition of the waxed touring jacket? I do understand that it has a removable zip out quilted layer and a belt which the Barbour Bedale doesn't have - but if you can get the "real deal" for $300, why would you buy the Spier and Mackay version at $398 MSRP?
 

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