SPIER & MACKAY - Official Affiliate Thread

[sydneycider]

I see a bunch of new comments about quality issues. Here to beat the dead horse once again. I'm glad I was at home today when this happened! Picking up my daughter from her bouncer and the dam broke. No rips in the fabric, just the threads blowing out. Also noticed a damned belt loop broke free! Never thought it would happen as the pants are, if anything, probably a size up from ideal. I will be reaching out the SM today to see how they will remedy this. I am terrified to wear my other pair of garment-dyed chinos! I'll likely take these in to get repaired since it's just the threads.
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Unreal, I was literally just about to post my own issues with my garment dyed chinos. About 5 wears and the side / pocket seams popped.

I really hope this is something that can be fixed, because I otherwise really like the pants.

 

[noverbeck]

Unreal, I was literally just about to post my own issues with my garment dyed chinos. About 5 wears and the side / pocket seams popped.

I really hope this is something that can be fixed, because I otherwise really like the pants.

This exact same thing happened to my pair. The small pocket within the right pocket broke as well.

 

[sydneycider]

Can't speak to MTO, but I own their 3 OCBD variants: lightweight, regular, and premium. If I had to rank them, the order would be as follows: lightweight > premium > regular. Lightweight having the slight edge because the weight just allows you to wear it more throughout the year, while the premium is too thick for warmer temps. My experience is that the premium OCBDs are less stiff than the regular ones. The texture is also smoother and lends itself to a slightly more formal appearance. I like to think of the regular and lightweight OCBDs as some of my favorite "workhorse" shirts, that I can throw on for any given day in the office (granted, when it's not summer), while the premium shirts (to me) feel more appropriate when I still want that preppy/Ivy look with a bit more refinement, if that makes sense. In terms of durability, they're all solid.

I'm sure others can chime in here though as the OCBDs are some of the crowd favorites. Still, hope this helps a bit.

I really really wish they had more lightweight OCBD options. There's really no point buying anything heavier in Australia, but all the fun stripes are only available in the heavy oxfords!

 

[Menswear2021]

Sorry for chiming in late on this. I have to respectfully disagree. The deep brown Fox flannel sportcoat has been my favorite teaser so far. I don't think its warmth makes it inherently less useful or attractive. See, for example, this article, extolling the virtues of a warm tweed jacket: https://www.drakes.com/usa/editorial/just-the-right-jacket/. A cooler jacket risks washing out the wearer. A warmer jacket offers depth of color that enlivens and emboldens the wearer. I like that the Fox flannel is darker, richer, and infused with an autumnal pallete of browns, greens, oranges, and purples. To cool it down, all you need is an ice blue oxford shirt and a pair of grey or charcoal flannels, stone chinos, or indigo denim. Its warmth and richness makes it different enough from the Moon (which, while great, has grown a little ubiquitous).

This man speaks the truth.

 

[hysteria]

Thoughts on this? Looks like lots of fantastic teasers that will be difficult to choose from this upcoming season, but this one captured my attention bc I've been looking for something similar to the brown donegal jacket that Simon is wearing in his photos from PS with the navy blue polo (not the brown herringbone with grey and white polos).

The Dartmoor sweater

The Dartmoor is a recreation of a collaboration first undertaken by Permanent Style in 2014. The updated version of the polo-collar sweater is made by Italian factory Umbria Verde, and has had its collar completely re-worked to make it better able to sit underneath a tailored jacket. Simon...

shop.permanentstyle.com

This seems like a relatively close match? Perhaps Simon's is a bit more taupe where this is a bit more reddish brown, bronze.

 

[JTrent82]

Hoping for a cool brown herringbone from Moon this fall. 🤞

 

[milktoast]

I really really wish they had more lightweight OCBD options. There's really no point buying anything heavier in Australia, but all the fun stripes are only available in the heavy oxfords!

Agreed - would like to see them put more variations of the lightweight OCBDs out.

 

[Imperatores]

I really really wish they had more lightweight OCBD options. There's really no point buying anything heavier in Australia, but all the fun stripes are only available in the heavy oxfords!

Heavy oxford shirts are pointless no matter where you live, imho. I'm in Scandinavia, and I never choose the heavier oxfords over the lightweight ones at any time of the year. They're just way more comfortable and wearable. You don't combat cold by wearing a heavier shirt, you do it by layering and/or with outerwear and jackets. At least with oxford shirts, which aren't really worn much just by themselves (as opposed to a heavy flannel shirt, for instance). And even if I did wear an oxford by itself, I'd rather wear a lightweight one with an undershirt than a heavier shirt.

 

[DonRaphael]

Heavy oxford shirts are pointless no matter where you live, imho. I'm in Scandinavia, and I never choose the heavier oxfords over the lightweight ones at any time of the year. They're just way more comfortable and wearable. You don't combat cold by wearing a heavier shirt, you do it by layering and/or with outerwear and jackets. At least with oxford shirts, which aren't really worn much just by themselves (as opposed to a heavy flannel shirt, for instance). And even if I did wear an oxford by itself, I'd rather wear a lightweight one with an undershirt than a heavier shirt.

Preach. I have a heavy oxford shirt. Never wear it. It just collects dust in the wardrobe. If I want to keep warm I wear a cardigan.

 

[sydneycider]

Heavy oxford shirts are pointless no matter where you live, imho. I'm in Scandinavia, and I never choose the heavier oxfords over the lightweight ones at any time of the year. They're just way more comfortable and wearable. You don't combat cold by wearing a heavier shirt, you do it by layering and/or with outerwear and jackets. At least with oxford shirts, which aren't really worn much just by themselves (as opposed to a heavy flannel shirt, for instance). And even if I did wear an oxford by itself, I'd rather wear a lightweight one with an undershirt than a heavier shirt.

Exactly! We all love to layer and I'd prefer to have more opportunities to layer by wearing a lighter shirt. Is the issue a lack of lightweight Oxford cloth on the market? God I just want me lightweight OCBDs but they're impossible to find.

 

[1st Step]

Blu Seersucker...

 

[milktoast]

Exactly! We all love to layer and I'd prefer to have more opportunities to layer by wearing a lighter shirt. Is the issue a lack of lightweight Oxford cloth on the market? God I just want me lightweight OCBDs but they're impossible to find.

As we ponder the “why,” we will continue to (impatiently) monitor the site for a restock that takes far too long. Feels bad, man.

 

[James1051]

Heavy oxford shirts are pointless no matter where you live, imho.

LOL. Incredible that OCBDs even caught on!
I wear traditional weight oxfords a lot in the colder months here in Philadelphia. Yes you can layer, but for me the sweaters and vests don't get worn much. Oxford and a jacket for me, if I'm not in a suit.

We have hot weather and cold weather and not a lot of in between. So the LW oxfords don't really have a season and don't get a lot of wear. Too heavy in summer, and they need a sweater in the cold months. Now if I lived in the south, it would be totally different.

 

[JTrent82]

As we ponder the “why,” we will continue to (impatiently) monitor the site for a restock that takes far too long. Feels bad, man.

You could just order them MTO. I mean there are only three color options, but they're always available.

 

[sargeinaz]

I’m always cold soooooo I prefer a heavier Oxford. Also, thinner ones wrinkle badly after wearing them for like 2 minutes