SPIER & MACKAY - Official Affiliate Thread

[Jlee80]

Breaking down how?

Canvassing bunching up, bubbling on the collar, not holding shape.
Wonder if going full canvas would fix this or just a bad batch of suits?

 

[dukenukem4ever]

Canvassing bunching up, bubbling on the collar, not holding shape.
Wonder if going full canvas would fix this or just a bad batch of suits?

are you steaming them with a steamer? i dont think suits just bubble up unless its been worked on (dry cleaned, steamed overly, etc.)
could be bad quality canvas, could be the heat working against the adhesives, etc.

 

[Jlee80]

are you steaming them with a steamer? i dont think suits just bubble up unless its been worked on (dry cleaned, steamed overly, etc.)
could be bad quality canvas, could be the heat working against the adhesives, etc.

None of that...no dry cleaning...suit brush after each wear. Sizing is on point, they just dont look or wear as nice as even my RTW Stuff from 2021. Not sure if it was just a bad run or what not...

 

[XxLogo]

IMHO, Start over! I would love to see (photos) before you chopped it up....

This is a name I haven’t seen in a while!

 

[1st Step]

That Sage, DB - 6X2

Arrived Today, I Took This Beauty To The Doctors (tailor) Office, In A Hurry...

 

[milktoast]

Does anyone have experience with both the 2-ply 80s premium oxfords and the standard 40s compact oxfords from SM MTO? How remarkable is the difference in hand, quality, durability, etc.? Trying to make an informed decision but information is lacking.

Can't speak to MTO, but I own their 3 OCBD variants: lightweight, regular, and premium. If I had to rank them, the order would be as follows: lightweight > premium > regular. Lightweight having the slight edge because the weight just allows you to wear it more throughout the year, while the premium is too thick for warmer temps. My experience is that the premium OCBDs are less stiff than the regular ones. The texture is also smoother and lends itself to a slightly more formal appearance. I like to think of the regular and lightweight OCBDs as some of my favorite "workhorse" shirts, that I can throw on for any given day in the office (granted, when it's not summer), while the premium shirts (to me) feel more appropriate when I still want that preppy/Ivy look with a bit more refinement, if that makes sense. In terms of durability, they're all solid.

I'm sure others can chime in here though as the OCBDs are some of the crowd favorites. Still, hope this helps a bit.

 

[Proleet]

Anyone got these? Impressions?

Angelico - Navy Pique Double Knit - Easy Trouser | SPIER & MACKAY

Spier & Mackay

www.spierandmackay.com

 

[ptfly]

Anyone got these? Impressions?

Angelico - Navy Pique Double Knit - Easy Trouser | SPIER & MACKAY

Spier & Mackay

www.spierandmackay.com

Double knit especially at that weight probably feels quite heavy like a pair of sweats. Also may get elephant knees after wearing for a bit.

 

[NickisaguyinBK]

I see a bunch of new comments about quality issues. Here to beat the dead horse once again. I'm glad I was at home today when this happened! Picking up my daughter from her bouncer and the dam broke. No rips in the fabric, just the threads blowing out. Also noticed a damned belt loop broke free! Never thought it would happen as the pants are, if anything, probably a size up from ideal. I will be reaching out the SM today to see how they will remedy this. I am terrified to wear my other pair of garment-dyed chinos! I'll likely take these in to get repaired since it's just the threads.

 

[sdjackofclubs]

I see a bunch of new comments about quality issues. Here to beat the dead horse once again. I'm glad I was at home today when this happened! Picking up my daughter from her bouncer and the dam broke. No rips in the fabric, just the threads blowing out. Also noticed a damned belt loop broke free! Never thought it would happen as the pants are, if anything, probably a size up from ideal. I will be reaching out the SM today to see how they will remedy this. I am terrified to wear my other pair of garment-dyed chinos! I'll likely take these in to get repaired since it's just the threads.
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Wow! This is considerably worse than what happened with my chinos. Definitely reach out to customer services.

 

[SpierTeam]

I see a bunch of new comments about quality issues. Here to beat the dead horse once again. I'm glad I was at home today when this happened! Picking up my daughter from her bouncer and the dam broke. No rips in the fabric, just the threads blowing out. Also noticed a damned belt loop broke free! Never thought it would happen as the pants are, if anything, probably a size up from ideal. I will be reaching out the SM today to see how they will remedy this. I am terrified to wear my other pair of garment-dyed chinos! I'll likely take these in to get repaired since it's just the threads.
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Hello, @NickisaguyinBK. I'm sorry to hear about the tear in your chinos. We've responded to the email you sent us about this issue.

For our other customers on Style Forum, we have recently learned that there is an issue with the thread that our factory used for this season's collection of garment-dyed chinos. The thread is a slightly different composition that is not as durable as our previous versions, so unfortunately the seams on these garments are more prone to breaking & splitting. Unfortunately, we were not aware of this issue until after the chinos had already arrived in our warehouse and been shipped out to our customers. Our production team has reached out to our factory to ensure that this issue does not occur for future production runs.

However, if you have experienced a similar issue with our garment-dyed chinos from this season, please reach out to our customer service team at [email protected], and we will gladly take care of it for you. Once again, our sincerest apologies for the inconvenience.

 

[sydneycider]

I see a bunch of new comments about quality issues. Here to beat the dead horse once again. I'm glad I was at home today when this happened! Picking up my daughter from her bouncer and the dam broke. No rips in the fabric, just the threads blowing out. Also noticed a damned belt loop broke free! Never thought it would happen as the pants are, if anything, probably a size up from ideal. I will be reaching out the SM today to see how they will remedy this. I am terrified to wear my other pair of garment-dyed chinos! I'll likely take these in to get repaired since it's just the threads.
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Unreal, I was literally just about to post my own issues with my garment dyed chinos. About 5 wears and the side / pocket seams popped.

I really hope this is something that can be fixed, because I otherwise really like the pants.

 

[noverbeck]

Unreal, I was literally just about to post my own issues with my garment dyed chinos. About 5 wears and the side / pocket seams popped.

I really hope this is something that can be fixed, because I otherwise really like the pants.

This exact same thing happened to my pair. The small pocket within the right pocket broke as well.

 

[sydneycider]

Can't speak to MTO, but I own their 3 OCBD variants: lightweight, regular, and premium. If I had to rank them, the order would be as follows: lightweight > premium > regular. Lightweight having the slight edge because the weight just allows you to wear it more throughout the year, while the premium is too thick for warmer temps. My experience is that the premium OCBDs are less stiff than the regular ones. The texture is also smoother and lends itself to a slightly more formal appearance. I like to think of the regular and lightweight OCBDs as some of my favorite "workhorse" shirts, that I can throw on for any given day in the office (granted, when it's not summer), while the premium shirts (to me) feel more appropriate when I still want that preppy/Ivy look with a bit more refinement, if that makes sense. In terms of durability, they're all solid.

I'm sure others can chime in here though as the OCBDs are some of the crowd favorites. Still, hope this helps a bit.

I really really wish they had more lightweight OCBD options. There's really no point buying anything heavier in Australia, but all the fun stripes are only available in the heavy oxfords!

 

[Menswear2021]

Sorry for chiming in late on this. I have to respectfully disagree. The deep brown Fox flannel sportcoat has been my favorite teaser so far. I don't think its warmth makes it inherently less useful or attractive. See, for example, this article, extolling the virtues of a warm tweed jacket: https://www.drakes.com/usa/editorial/just-the-right-jacket/. A cooler jacket risks washing out the wearer. A warmer jacket offers depth of color that enlivens and emboldens the wearer. I like that the Fox flannel is darker, richer, and infused with an autumnal pallete of browns, greens, oranges, and purples. To cool it down, all you need is an ice blue oxford shirt and a pair of grey or charcoal flannels, stone chinos, or indigo denim. Its warmth and richness makes it different enough from the Moon (which, while great, has grown a little ubiquitous).

This man speaks the truth.