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Has anyone else copped the Fox Air Tobacco Brown trousers? I just received mine and am struggling to realize how versatile these can truly be as odd trousers.

They're definitely a darker shade of brown than perhaps I anticipated, so trying to figure out what color loafers and sportcoats would pair best in the Texas heat has me drawing blanks.
 

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Has anyone else copped the Fox Air Tobacco Brown trousers? I just received mine and am struggling to realize how versatile these can truly be as odd trousers.

They're definitely a darker shade of brown than perhaps I anticipated, so trying to figure out what color loafers and sportcoats would pair best in the Texas heat has me drawing blanks.
I bought the suit, and think the color/cloth is fantastic. I can see a bit of difficulty, but have found that I really like the way it looks with color 8/burgundy shoes. I’ve worn the trouser with a navy jacket, and thought it looked great, but mostly has been worn as a suit for me.
 

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I bought the suit, and think the color/cloth is fantastic. I can see a bit of difficulty, but have found that I really like the way it looks with color 8/burgundy shoes. I’ve worn the trouser with a navy jacket, and thought it looked great, but mostly has been worn as a suit for me.
Thanks that's helpful
 

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I'm personally going to try a pre-tailored 27.5" inseam and let you all know how it goes. Found a Final Sale for $250, so getting it pre-tailored won't make a difference in the return policy, but will likely greatly improve the fit. Since I'm partial to half-break over negative break, if we go with 27.5" I can wear the pants maybe a little higher on the waist if they are slightly longer, but hard to wear them lower if we're in negative break territory.
You would be much better served ordering them unhemmed. Take them to a dry cleaner and have them hem them for you at your desired length. Going forward, you can then have them hemmed by SM at the same length.
 

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Has anyone else copped the Fox Air Tobacco Brown trousers? I just received mine and am struggling to realize how versatile these can truly be as odd trousers.

They're definitely a darker shade of brown than perhaps I anticipated, so trying to figure out what color loafers and sportcoats would pair best in the Texas heat has me drawing blanks.
Those should pair nicely with an oatmeal or cream colored jacket.

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Picked up a Midnight Blue/Navy Sharkskin Suit for 20% off of final sale price -- ~$207 with tailoring.

 

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Has anyone else copped the Fox Air Tobacco Brown trousers? I just received mine and am struggling to realize how versatile these can truly be as odd trousers.

They're definitely a darker shade of brown than perhaps I anticipated, so trying to figure out what color loafers and sportcoats would pair best in the Texas heat has me drawing blanks.
I really like the richness of the Fox Air brown trousers. I think the color is quite versatile. I imagine it would pair well with my sportcoats below and dark brown suede loafers. Now I wish I had bought the full suit lol.

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Any 5'7" guys in here care to speak to pant size inseam tailoring for a half-break fit? Looking online, seeing that a 26-27" inseam is appropriate for most guys in that height bracket.
impossible to say some people have long torso short legs others are opposite others are more proportional. best bet... just bring to your local tailor don't cheap out on an extra 5 - 10 dollars.
 

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I really like the richness of the Fox Air brown trousers. I think the color is quite versatile. I imagine it would pair well with my sportcoats below and dark brown suede loafers. Now I wish I had bought the full suit lol.

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same i wish i had bought the full set and tis a shame cannot buy the separates as i got both of the fox airs.
 

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I bought the suit, and think the color/cloth is fantastic. I can see a bit of difficulty, but have found that I really like the way it looks with color 8/burgundy shoes. I’ve worn the trouser with a navy jacket, and thought it looked great, but mostly has been worn as a suit for me.
Any IRL pic of the suit? Been eyeing on it since last month. But can’t trust SM website photos for color.
 

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Will chinos/quest cotton type trousers ever come in MTO options? I have funny proportions (there isn't a size 29 in OTW & I seem to fit 28 in waist and 30 in hips). Also I remember hearing last year rumors of trench coats and/or leather jackets. Were these COVID casualties/delays or maybe scrapped ideas?
Working on adding MTO chinos. Hope to have that ready to go by the end of Summer. Factory and fabric source for the chinos is different, so setting up the program is extra work.

Quest cottons should be available now in MTO.

Trench coat, we finally hope to have early Fall. We had to switch factories and start sampling from scratch, add in Covid and it's easy to see where the delay is. But the samples have come out great. Nice and full cut, long length, removable liner and all traditional details, including flap pockets. Fabric is 100% water resistant cotton from Larusmiani. Fingers crossed.
 

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Since we're getting REALLY awesome answers and help now:
Do we know if Fabric 2458R 180/3 (Style 22152-2F1H1) is a match for any of the MTO sportcoat fabrics? It's the Guabello blue mix texture from FW-19.
No, doesn't look like we have that cloth available in MTO. Sorry.
 

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Trench coat, we finally hope to have early Fall. We had to switch factories and start sampling from scratch, add in Covid and it's easy to see where the delay is. But the samples have come out great. Nice and full cut, long length, removable liner and all traditional details, including flap pockets. Fabric is 100% water resistant cotton from Larusmiani. Fingers crossed.
this is great news, especially the "full cut, long length" part. Looking forward to that drop!
I have two old trenches, both of which need to be retired.
 

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Yes, though as orangefury mentioned I don't know how well a true sack would sell. There are still a ton of Ivy enthusiasts out there and your MTO program is less expansive than OTR stuff at O'Connell's or J. Press. You also offer a ton of fun tweeds that go well with Ivy's casual nature. I don't know how difficult it is for the MTO program to offer darted vs undarted but the other details...
  • 3/2 closure: bottom button aligns horizontally with the top of the patch/flap pockets: you already offer this with the Neo cut.
  • 3.5" notch lapels: already offered based on alkydrinker's MTO.
  • Swelled edges/lapped seams: I can't tell on alkydrinker's coat if it has swelled edges but I think it does. Lapped seams may be a pain, not sure.
  • Triple patch pockets with patch & flap pockets at the hip: I see you already offer the latter, again based on alkydrinker's coat. I imagine a patch pocket at the chest isn't a big deal.
  • Hook vent: the one Ivy detail I never cared about, not sure it'd actually prevent any Ivy fans from ordering MTO. I'd assume this would also be a pain.
Again, not super different from the Neo cut but narrower lapels, swelled edges, lapped seams, patch/flap pockets. An option for darted/undarted would be the icing on the cake, though I'm sure not having a sack/undarted option would be a dealbreaker for some as it's one of Ivy's defining characteristics.

What alkydrinker was able to order is pretty darn close but the fact that it's missing some key details--and I can only speak for myself--is why I haven't ordered any MTO sportcoats. I'd be all over a grey herringbone tweed and a blue seersucker in an Ivy template. Corduroy, fun tweeds. It'd be a problem for my bank account.
Most of these changes should be fairly easy to integrate. Let me see what we can do. We've already sampled an undarted jacket almost a year ago, but with everything going on, I didn't do much with it. lol. Didn't realize there was much interest in it.
 

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