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Can someone give me some casual and black tie creative ideas with the velvet burgundy dinner jacket
Black turtle neck is about the best I can come up with. That should cover you...it's casual and still can be sharp, though not traditional black-tie, obviously.

I'm stretching myself here, but a black knit t-shirt and black jeans with black loafers could possibly be done, but with both of these and any derivations, you start to get into "cool Santa" territory.

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Dude, what? No. Just no.
Mon Frere, live a little

Black turtle neck is about the best I can come up with. That should cover you...it's casual and still can be sharp, though not traditional black-tie, obviously.

I'm stretching myself here, but a black knit t-shirt and black jeans with black loafers could possibly be done, but with both of these and any derivations, you start to get into "cool Santa" territory.

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Have received my first spier & mackay suit. Outrageously soft, I feel like the construction is even softer than SuitSupply's? Loving the jacket length and the button stance...button stance felt a bit low at first but then I realized it was precisely at my natural waist around 1 inch above my belly button. guess I was just too used to super trendy high button stances

Will post photos soon, needs a lot of work at the tailor for sleeve/trouser length and nipping in the waist but otherwise everything else fits very well
 

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I had my tailor convert a few S&M trousers from belt loops to side tabs. He used excess fabric from the hem and did a fantastic job. I’m slowly but surely becoming a bigger and bigger fan of side tabs.
 

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I had my tailor convert a few S&M trousers from belt loops to side tabs. He used excess fabric from the hem and did a fantastic job. I’m slowly but surely becoming a bigger and bigger fan of side tabs.
How much did this run you?? I am considering doing the same as I much prefer side tabs over wearing a belt for formal wear, and most S&M suit pants come with belt loops lol
 

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I had my tailor convert a few S&M trousers from belt loops to side tabs. He used excess fabric from the hem and did a fantastic job. I’m slowly but surely becoming a bigger and bigger fan of side tabs.
Amazing job! I've been thinking of doing this too but I like to have the trousers cuffed and guess there isn't enough excess for both cuffs and side tabs.
 

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How much did this run you?? I am considering doing the same as I much prefer side tabs over wearing a belt for formal wear, and most S&M suit pants come with belt loops lol
I completely agree. S&M should offer more trouser options with side tabs with their RTW selection. This was not cheap; it ran me around $35 per trouser. But I picked up these trousers during the clearance sale, so it made a little more financial sense to splurge on tailoring for these trousers.

Amazing job! I've been thinking of doing this too but I like to have the trousers cuffed and guess there isn't enough excess for both cuffs and side tabs.
That's the one issue with the after-market modification. My tailor said it's a choice between either cuffs or side tabs. He needs about 3-4 inches of material to form the side tabs, and then there isn't enough left for cuffs.
 
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I completely agree. S&M should offer more trouser options with side tabs with their RTW selection. This was not cheap; it ran me around $35 per trouser. But I picked up these trousers during the clearance sale, so it made a little more financial sense to splurge on tailoring for these trousers.
I suspect this falls squarely in the "SF buyer vs. 'nomal' buyer" difference. I don't think I've seen 5 people in my entire life wearing side tabs in real life. I would be that the majority of S&M's customers strongly prefer belt loops.
 

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I suspect this falls squarely in the "SF buyer vs. 'nomal' buyer" difference. I don't think I've seen 5 people in my entire life wearing side tabs in real life. I would be that the majority of S&M's customers strongly prefer belt loops.
That's a fair point and I can see why they maintain belt loops as a primary offering. I ask for side tabs for entirely selfish reasons!

I'm curious, though, to know the breakdown with S&M customer base between normal and style-conscious folks. In previous interviews, I remember Rick mentioning that SF is a major marketing effort for them.
 

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I suspect this falls squarely in the "SF buyer vs. 'nomal' buyer" difference. I don't think I've seen 5 people in my entire life wearing side tabs in real life. I would be that the majority of S&M's customers strongly prefer belt loops.
I feel like this is due to the fact that most people wear pants that are a size or two too big in the waist and need a belt to keep it up, or the fact that a majority of people don’t know what side tabs even are, and everyone knows what belt loops are.

I think if most people knew what side tabs are and how it’s much easier to adjust to small weighty fluctuations and don’t have to buy a nice leather belt, they would opt for them over belt loops.
 

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