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The neapolitan thing us something primarily style bros care about. Most people that aren't into menswear don't notice the features. They just see a suit.
My dryclean lady told me to stop buying "3 button" jacket because they're out of style. I told her to stop pressing it like a 3 button :butbut:
 

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The neapolitan thing us something primarily style bros care about. Most people that aren't into menswear don't notice the features. They just see a suit.
True, most people won't be able to say exactly how it's different or even that it's different. But it'll seem "off" to your average white collar wage slave, who is notoriously prone to the Dunning-Kruger effect. This might or might not be important to the OP, however.

On the other hand, assuming the fit is right any suit connoisseur will think you look pretty dapper.

My dryclean lady told me to stop buying "3 button" jacket because they're out of style. I told her to stop pressing it like a 3 button :butbut:
And then there's that! 😂
 

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My dryclean lady told me to stop buying "3 button" jacket because they're out of style. I told her to stop pressing it like a 3 button :butbut:
That's not really the same thing. She's handling the jacket. At a glance a neapolitan suit just looks like a suit to the majority of people.
 

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My dryclean lady told me to stop buying "3 button" jacket because they're out of style. I told her to stop pressing it like a 3 button :butbut:
At an engagement party tonight, the groom-to-be brushed my shoulder and then pointed to his and said "I'm glad we both have puffy shoulders. Now people don't look at me like I'm the crazy one here!"

He had some aggressive spalla camicia going on with a boldly-lapeled DB suit. I wish I had asked him who the maker was.

All this is to underscore that this was the first time anybody's ever noticed that detail in a positive way. I've had people tell me I need to find a new tailor before, but nobody who really notices shoulder shirring positively.
 

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Any real life pics of the “blue hatch texture” zignone Suit?
 

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Maybe this isn't the best way, or most original or creative, but I like to find pictures of people I respect (their clothing sensibilities) and try to emulate them. All these options lie in a relatively narrow bandwidth - most of the differences will depend on what you're going for and personal taste. Perhaps start by finding what you want to look like, and go from there.

As for sizing, take advantage of their free return shipping for your first suit/jacket purchase. YMMV, it's unlikely someone will be able to provide detailed information that will lead to the correct size. If they do, it's probably more luck than expertise. Order some sizes, try some stuff on take some fit pics, post them here or the "tailors" thread to get more nuanced insight to sizing.

Unfortunately, your state government has failed the public fantastically so normally I'd say since you live in Houston, go to S*itsupply on Westheimer and try on some jackets to get an idea. There is a lot of history in this thread of matching sizes. Until then, GL in your journey.

Edit: not advocating purchasing from S*itsupply - just to find sizing. I'm S&M all the way, don't get the wrong idea.
I might go to Suit Supply tomorrow if I am in the area. Previously the suits were final sale, but now they are not anymore for some reason. Still I know free shipping and exchange, just don't want to waste too much of their money on shipping.
 

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Great questions. For colour, you’ll be happiest with something dark, because it’s more formal and also more class and less flash. For quality you’ll find Spier and MacKay to be above and beyond anything at a similar price. For fit, the Spier contemporary is the most forgiving. If you ask, they can sometimes swap out the pants for a different size. So if you can fit a 42 jacket you aren’t stuck with too-tight 36 pants.

That Blue Mix Sharkskin is lovely and super classic. And @pickergc is right about using the first-time free returns policy. It’s designed with you in mind.

Thank you.

I read up a little on Sharkskin and it is supposed to be a two tone and have a sheen to it? Not sure exactly the pictures and video I can't really see anything that much different vs a solid colour suit. The sheen makes it sound kind of spiffy, but guess I have to see it in person? They don't look really two tone anymore than a regular solid colour on pictures online from what I can see. The Spier and MacKay suits were on final sale when I looked last week and now they are not with 25% off and now I am more tempted for that. I realized I never got my sleeve measured by my local tailor to find out sleeve length. I am probably gonna return the J. Crew one I ordered.

If anything and didn't need one to be very versatile I would much prefer a green toned suit. Green is literally my favourite colour.
 

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Thank you.

I read up a little on Sharkskin and it is supposed to be a two tone and have a sheen to it? Not sure exactly the pictures and video I can't really see anything that much different vs a solid colour suit.
Sharkskin has some shine, and "two-tone" here just means subtle crosshatching from two different colours of thread. It's a smooth twill. Denim is a twill, too; that's why your jeans have white threads showing under the blue.

If anything and didn't need one to be very versatile I would much prefer a green toned suit. Green is literally my favourite colour.
My prediction? You'll get a basic, super-wearable navy suit, realize you love wearing a suit, and then you'll get a green fun one. And then you'll want more.
 
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purchased the Guabello hopsack separates as my one and only suit. Bought on Monday, expected delivery to Europe by next Tuesday. Quite expedient I will say. I bought a sweatshirt from Spier last October and it took 2 months to arrive.
 

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If you truly want only ONE suit and you're not prepared to stand out from the crowd, then forget about anything that's not listed as "navy" or "charcoal". All those medium blues and grays are great, but they stand out* (especially in fall/winter, regardless of the fact you live in the south).

Most versatile as both suit and separates would probably be a navy hopsack suit with patch pockets, as recommended by Brian Sacawa. Unfortunately, the only such thing in stock at the moment is the Guabello navy hopsack sportcoat + high-rise trousers. It's out of your price range and it's also a Neapolitan 3-roll-2 cut so it might stick out like a sore thumb in downtown Houston... However, if you think you can rock it with confidence I'd say: splurge! It's your only suit after all.


* And I say this as a ginger with a collection that's 90% not navy/charcoal.

Actually, I am open to standing out. My favourite colour is green, but I am not sure if my default suit is to wear a green suit to a funeral. Though technically for the most part my Jos A. Bank suit still fits ok and its charcoal grey is fine since I used it a few times on and off the past 4-5 years I had it. I don't plan on going to many funerals, but I am reaching the age where they start to happen for grandparents and elderly parent friends.

Just looked up what 3 roll 2 cut is. So basically it has 3 buttons, but only use the middle one vs the two button and use the top one?
 

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Sharkskin has some shine, and "two-tone" here just means subtle crosshatching from two different colours of thread. It's a smooth twill. Denim is a twill, too; that's why your jeans have white threads showing under the blue.



My prediction? You'll get a basic, super-wearable navy suit, realize you love wearing a suit, and then you'll get a green fun one. And then you'll want more.

I recently gotten some Strand Walnut dress shoes from AE and I love pairing them with my N&F Green Core jeans so far. I been thinking of getting the Green Forest Kudu Cap Toe Grant Stone Boots just to wear with it too.

Sharkskin sheen sounds very appealing, maybe the local Suit Supply store has some example of it I can see what it looks in person. Brooks Brothers is closed still here each time I call them.
 

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That's not really the same thing. She's handling the jacket. At a glance a neapolitan suit just looks like a suit to the majority of people.
This is why 3r2 is annoying. You never use the top button but people keep messing up when pressing it while the top button hole ruins the lapel roll when unbuttoned. Overall a style failure element that I believe will go away in the future. Thus my preference to get classical 2 buttons or whenever possible when MTO 1 button. Same as fake buttons, just keep them max 2 for casual jackets and 3 for formal suits.
 

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Actually, I am open to standing out. My favourite colour is green, but I am not sure if my default suit is to wear a green suit to a funeral. Though technically for the most part my Jos A. Bank suit still fits ok and its charcoal grey is fine since I used it a few times on and off the past 4-5 years I had it. I don't plan on going to many funerals, but I am reaching the age where they start to happen for grandparents and elderly parent friends.

Just looked up what 3 roll 2 cut is. So basically it has 3 buttons, but only use the middle one vs the two button and use the top one?
I have more green jackets than any other colors. If it's dark enough it's ok for a funeral. How often do you go to a funeral anyway?

Yea 3r2 is the stupidest thing ever introduced to a jacket. Either make it a real 3 button or 2. If you want added sprezz do it through other ways.
 

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