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Just me, or do the lapels look skinnier on the new suits?

They are the same. The product pics of the actual suit is a little smaller because of the colour background. We added more pad space around the item. So next to the old pics. Everything looks smaller. But they are the same. 3.5" on a 40.
 

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They are the same. The product pics of the actual suit is a little smaller because of the colour background. We added more pad space around the item. So next to the old pics. Everything looks smaller. But they are the same. 3.5" on a 40.

I know they're both listed at 3.5" on 40, but these sure look different:

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I like the lapels in the first pic (an older suit, and the lapels look larger) better. What is the explanation for the difference in appearance? Different jacket sizes used for the product images? Different factory? Or are the lapels different despite the same spes, but still within tolerance?
 

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I know they're both listed at 3.5" on 40, but these sure look different:

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10005-934-1-2112-1.jpg

I like the lapels in the first pic (an older suit, and the lapels look larger) better. What is the explanation for the difference in appearance? Different jacket sizes used for the product images? Different factory? Or are the lapels different despite the same spes, but still within tolerance?

What you are comparing is a blazer suit to a normal suit. The blazer suit (you can tell by the patch pockets) is based on the sportcoat jacket. The lapel is fractionally larger. About 0.5 cm. But also the lapel angle is different and the shape of the lapel. There is more belly on the sportcoat. I'll physically check tomorrow though as a double check. But we haven't changed the lapel on the suits in 3 years now.
 

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What you are comparing is a blazer suit to a normal suit. The blazer suit (you can tell by the patch pockets) is based on the sportcoat jacket. The lapel is fractionally larger. About 0.5 cm. But also the lapel angle is different and the shape of the lapel. I'll physically check tomorrow though as a double check. But we haven't changed the lapel on the suits in 3 years now.

Ahhhh I gotchya. My bad. Yeah I think you've mentioned that in this thread before... probably in response to a question from me. ?
 

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What you are comparing is a blazer suit to a normal suit. The blazer suit (you can tell by the patch pockets) is based on the sportcoat jacket. The lapel is fractionally larger. About 0.5 cm. But also the lapel angle is different and the shape of the lapel. There is more belly on the sportcoat. I'll physically check tomorrow though as a double check. But we haven't changed the lapel on the suits in 3 years now.
I never understood belly.

The suit lapels "pop" more to my eye. Sport coat looks flatter to me
 

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The new suits are all listed as having unpadded shoulders. Is that accurate or a typo? I thought the normal suits (vs blazer suits) had slight padding or has that changed?
 

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I never understood belly.

The suit lapels "pop" more to my eye. Sport coat looks flatter to me

"Belly" just refers to the curvature of the outside lapel edge. No belly would be a straight cut lapel. The Neo lapels have a slight negative belly, or you could think of them as concave. The regular S&M sportcoat lapels have a little bit of belly. It makes sense if you see a picture with lines drawn on it. A while ago, this thread was famous for pics with lines drawn on them. Maybe someone could whip up a pic with some lines drawn on it to illustrate this matter.
 

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Lapel "belly" just refers to the curvature of the outside lapel edge. No belly would be a straight cut lapel. The Neo lapels have a slight negative belly, or you could think of them as concave. The regular S&M sportcoat lapels have a little bit of belly. It makes sense if you see a picture with lines drawn on it. A while ago, this thread was famous for pics with lines drawn on them. Maybe someone could whip up a pic with some lines drawn on it to illustrate this matter.
Oooh okay I got it now. To me then it doesn't matter, I only care about the 3D effect of a lapel
 

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Oooh okay I got it now. To me then it doesn't matter, I only care about the 3D effect of a lapel

Yes, I'm largely indifferent about belly as long as it's subtle and the lapels otherwise have a nice shape/size. Not quite sure what you mean by 3D effect. Maybe you're referring to how the lapels roll near the buttoning point?
 
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I believe this is the response as to why new arrivals don't have certain sizes? I was looking into the blue mix texture for a groomsman in a slim 34.

We stopped carrying 34, but we should have some 34 shorts. Both don't sell very well unfortunately.
 

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