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Hopefully someone can help me out here:

I was perusing Spier & Mackay's collar options for their shirts (MTM) and was wondering if anyone could share with me their photos of an Italian button down collar and the large Italian button down collar. The difference is 3 3/4 vs 4 1/8, respectively.

I absolutely love collar roll and would wear these with and without a tie.... I currently have a few BD collars shirts that top out at 3 7/8 and they are rolltastic.

I think I also read somewhere that you could request that these shirts have unlined collars, despite the website saying that it's a stiff fused collar. Is that correct? Also, are the shirts all must iron, unless the website explicitly says otherwise? Finally, where are the shirts actually made?

Many, many thanks for your expertise; I may have found a rabbit hole which I cannot escape from. :violin:

~savvy
Bump.

Any experience with the longer button down collars or requesting that the collars be unlined despite the standard offering being a lined collar?

Thank you.
 

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Anyone have an "in the wild" photo of the mint green flannel trousers? Or can someone at least tell me just how green they are, vs. grey?
Same question. I almost pulled the trigger on these yesterday and then the gray flannel restock email hit last night and I couldn't order those fast enough. Wondering how similar they are in the wild?
 

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Yes, I noticed this too. I have the same Zignone blue herringbone in 40R slim and the lapel measures a full 4”

Looks very similar to the Neo cut, but no 3 roll 2.

I’m not complaining at all, I’m a fan and if anyone was holding off on this one because it wasn’t a Neapolitan cut, you’ll be pleasantly surprised if you pick it up. Fabric is pretty amazing too, extremely soft wool and silk blend.
I agree with you the lapel looks awesome. Mine is about 3.75" and it almost does look like a neo lapel given how it covers up half the breast pocket. .
 

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The collar points stick out because the collar is way too big for your neck. Look at the neck gap.
Not necessarily true! It’s a known issue and Rick is aware of it. The good news is, it does fix itself but takes a few wash for that to happen.
 

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I’ll agree on the belt loops being an issue, but even if the SKU is the same, there can be variation in different dye lots. The mid gray VBC jacket from last year that S&M accidentally sent me was a slightly different shade than the mid gray of this year’s pants, even though the fabric was the same. I wouldnt be upset about the variation unless it was specifically advertised as suit separates.
100%, that’s not on S&M at all. I’d be surprised if they actually did match.
 

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Finally got some ok pics with my new charcoal tweed suit separates (unaltered, my tailor is on vacation right now). I love it but noticed the cut felt a little different than my other suits from previous seasons. Seems to be a higher trouser rise, Which I love! However the jacket feels more slim fit than contemporary, this is fine because I need contemporary for the pants but could go with either for the jacket. Specifically the waist feels more snug, and it just ~feels~ shorter in the body although it only looks like maybe 0.5 inch shorter at most. I took pictures with my favorite S&M suit jacket too, a Guabello medium grey, to compare fit, and I feel the difference more than I see it. When I first tried this tweed jacket on I thought I might want to send it back for a 42L instead of 42R, but I think I'll be ok with it unless anyone really thinks I should switch. I love the fabric on this, great texture, springy, a little stretch to it, and only 1/4 lined! It's definitely filling out my need for a fall/winter suit.
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Too short. I'd get the long version.
 

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Not necessarily true! It’s a known issue and Rick is aware of it. The good news is, it does fix itself but takes a few wash for that to happen.
Agreed, but the shirt collar as depicted in his photos would indicate that it is too large.
 

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Agreed, but the shirt collar as depicted in his photos would indicate that it is too large.
Got you, I was just stating that it’s a known issue regardless of fit. I’ve experienced it on a couple shirts but not all of them.
 

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has anybody done an mtm shirt where you send in a shirt and have them copy its design?

not the measurements, but the design.

i've got a shirt i'd love to have completely copied top to bottom in design, but made with the measurements i'd specify. curious if anybody has tried anything like this and what it cost.
 

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