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spending rule?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Notatinyman, Jun 19, 2012.

  1. Sanguis Mortuum

    Sanguis Mortuum Senior member

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    Polyester ties always look like polyester ties, and considering how cheap some silk ties are (albeit very low quality silk) there really is no excuse to ever wear one.
     
  2. dufferin1

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    It comes down to what YOU'RE comfortable with spending. I don't know your salary, bank records and tax receipts so really its what you want to spend. I'm a college student but work full time. I'm about to buy $400 dollar Sutor's because I know that they will last me and I take care of my things. I rather have a smaller number of good quality/more expensive items then a large amount of cheap terrible quality stuff. That being said, as a second year college student I would not buy a Canali or Zegna suit because at this point in time there are better options for less money. You can find many many deals on here that are worthwhile. I mean look at shopthefinest, with excellent shoes, shirts, ties you name it for a very good price. I used to buy Hugo Boss shirts for $175 because I didn't know of other options. Now I buy on here for the same if not less money and I get a better product. Where can you find a NWOT full canvas suit for $400 dollars shipped? SF of cource!
     
  3. minervau

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    Some items don't correspond much. Shirts you can always pick up for cheaper than $100 (e.g., Brooks Brothers shirts for $88, but always at $220 for 3, or at any one of their many sales for more like $55-60 a pop). And I think you could keep wearing those shirts even if you upped the rest of the wardrobe.

    Ties can actually run you much more for a nice one, more like in the $100 range, and $250's probably the minimum for goodyear welted shoes that will actually last a while.

    $500-600 can definitely get you a quality suit as long as you're not looking for a big name (e.g., Zegna).

    As for watch, I'd actually argue that watch should be worth more than the rest of your outfit put together, if you can afford it. While your suit, shirt, tie, etc., change every day, your watch is one of the few constants. A high-quality mechanical watch, though, runs you a minimum of $1,800 (from a small independent manufacture like Nomos) and of course can go much higher. If you want to rock an Omega, you have to set aside more like $4,000.
     
  4. RDiaz

    RDiaz Senior member

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    Right now I spend as low as I can without making things look awfully cheap cause I'm losing weight too. That's about €250-300 for suits, €150 for sport coats, €60 for shirts and €70 for pants max. My salary isn't great either so when I settle down and start getting nicer stuff I'll have to save up a lot. Guess €150 for shirts and ties, €200 for pants, €1000 for suits, or around €700 for sport coats would be my limit.

    Shoes are out of the weight loss issue because my size hasn't changed and it doesn't look like it's gonna change (it's likely that yours isn't changing either), so right now I spend a disproportionately large amount on them. Around €400 is my limit, but I usually don't go that high. I'm also starting to spend bigger bucks on ties.
     
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  5. KObalto

    KObalto Senior member

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    You can get a nice mechanical watch from Seiko for $500-600. As others have stated, stay away from polyester ties, and spend money on good shoes. A suit from Mens Wearhouse won't last you long, but if you are still losing weight, you don't need it to.Make sure you get something 100% wool and not a poly/wool blend.
    HermesMan, you are the king of the bling. :slayer:
     
  6. Master-Classter

    Master-Classter Senior member

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    wow, wow, I come back and look at what happened. Not to knock most of y'all but OP, you've gotten some really warped responses here. Some of them are "correct" but very skewed... so I say take all the above with a bathtub of salt. half the above posts are either trolling or way out of line for your purposes.

    Basically, to answer your question, it's a maybe, but mostly 'no'. There are certain pieces that you should spend more on up front like shoes and maybe the suit (although being well educated and hunting around means you can find good ones for less), whereas other pieces are much more interchangeable.

    my personal budget advice:
    Suits - $600-750, which should be a $1200-2000 suit on sale
    Shirts - $50-100, I find around the $75-100 gets you decent shirts
    Ties - (silk only please or wool, etc) - depends how many you need but my limit's about $100
    Shoes - $150 minimum, $200-300 is the sweet spot IMO. Find $300-400 shoes for $150-200 and you're good
    Watch - really up to you, but most watches under $1000 IMO are all basically the same. For now, go with a basic plain face (see poor man's watch forum) for like $150-300, later upgrade for $1000-1500



    as you can see, everyone has different values, and salaries to support them. I even recognize my own biases above.
     
  7. New Shoes1

    New Shoes1 Senior member

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    +1. On suits, I would also advise to look at Suit Supply (gets good reviews on SF for its $500 suit) and try to catch Brooks Brothers on sale (you can get two 1818 suits for $1120 if you buy them during a corporate incentive sale - next one is likely in September or October)

    I would also add that you should start with the minimum to get you through the first month and add suits/shirts/ties/shoes as you start getting paychecks and see what is appropriate in your office. How a new lawyer thinks his/her law firm will be and how it actually is are not always the same. Plus, most law firms understand that new lawyers need time to build their professional wardrobes.
     
  8. RDiaz

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    He said he's losing weight. I believe $500-600 is a bit too much for a suit that is only going to last a few months at best... unless he's well paid of course :p
     
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  9. pnutpug

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    This is a rather silly question, I think. Everyone who said, or implied, that you're better off in a JAB suit that fits than a pick-a-brand that does not is absolutely right. I find that I tend to spend more for ties than anything else because I can find most everything else on eBay or in thrift stores (I understand that might not work for everyone, but it does for me). I can generally find suits, and certainly sport coats, in the styles I favor--Pressidential, BBGF in 3/2 roll--for south of $100. Ditto for shoes, although I occasionally splurge and buy new AE when they go on sale. Shirts for $50 or less. But ties are different. The right Hermes or other high-end tie really adds pop, but they are tough to find for cheap. And so I'm more apt to splurge on ties than any other article of clothing.
     
  10. LA Guy

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    Worst line of argument is bolded. Most people, the vast majority of people, will not notice whether you are wearing a $400 Kenneth Cole suit or a bespoke suit from Rubinacci. If you are interested in clothing and accessories, you (hopefuilly) derive more pleasure from owning something beautiful than because it is noticed by someone else.
     
  11. msulinski

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    Agreed, but he is on a pretty tight budget, and losing weight. Right now, he can get away with a $15 belt.

    That said, I see nothing wrong with spending a bit of money on a nice belt, but I wouldn't do it unless I was pretty set on the basics (a few pairs of shoes, a few suits, and enough shirts and ties).
     
  12. dirkweems

    dirkweems Well-Known Member

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    Buy the best quality you can afford. It would help if you didn't try to purchase all the items on the same day. If you purchase high quality items, they should last you many years. Hence, a pair of shoes purchased today can be matched with a suit purchased 9 months from now. Brand names are not always a good indicator of quality, especially for department store quality items. A nicely tailored suit may look very much more expensive than it really is.
     
  13. in stitches

    in stitches Senior member Moderator

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    hermes man!!! yaaaay!!!

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    tbh, i find no consistent ratio in the purchase price of different clothing items.

    i think the best thing to do is buy what you like, what is good quality, what looks good on you, and what fits you, at a price you think is fair, or that you can afford. it doesnt really matter to me what the item is. on one day a suit could cost more than shoes, on another that could flip. same with a tie and a shirt, or pants and SC....
     
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  14. joe4u

    joe4u Well-Known Member

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    My spending rule: as long as I can afford, and I need it - I'd buy it.
     
  15. tomee

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    lol my post was sarcasm
     
  16. SMatthews

    SMatthews Well-Known Member

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    I limit my suits to less than $1000 and shirts for less than $200, if necessary.
     
  17. morrison13

    morrison13 Well-Known Member

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    with suits/shirts/trousers - nothing in excess of $5K
     
  18. KObalto

    KObalto Senior member

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    That's a pricey shirt. Kabazz?
     
  19. username79

    username79 Senior member

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    In my opinion, suits, sportcoats, and shoes are the only clothing items that need to be expensive.

    I would say there is a significant and noticeable decrease in quality in suits and sportcoats in the under 1K range. A decent suit with a high quality fabric is around 2K and up.

    As for shoes, you get what you pay for. $300 seems to be the minimum to get a pair of shoes that both look nice and are comfortable. I tried going the sub-$300 route and bought a pair of Magnanni's, and they look terrible after a year, but they are still quite comfortable.

    For everything else, there seems to be no good rule of thumb. I got some excellent shirts from Land's End recently and pants from J. Crew. $79 Cotton pants from J. Crew look and feel as good to me as $400 cotton pants from Incotex.
     
  20. cassidy96

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    My spending:

    Suit - 600 - 1000
    Shoes - 200 - 500
    Shirts - 60 - 120
    Tie - 50 - 80
    Handkerchiefs - 20 - 50
     

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