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Spectator Porn

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Manton, Aug 2, 2008.

  1. VRaivio

    VRaivio Senior member

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    Testudo: on vintage shoe advertisements this shoe type is usually called a ball strap or tarsal strap oxford/derby/brogue.

    My qualm with these particular reproductions is the material, it looks like corrected grain crap leather. If it's something else, the high-shine and platic-like finish is ugly.
     
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  2. knucks

    knucks Senior member

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    The Leather is Spanish High Shine Veg tan Calf. The tanned skins are imported into the UK and cut in Northampton.

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  3. mimo

    mimo Senior member

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    I like the idea of the retro tarsal strap, but works better with an oxford pattern than an adelaide imho.

    "Hi-shine" generally means "plastic coated"/corrected grain, but it's hard to tell from the picture. I have to say I like the concept a lot more than the execution: "bench made" is a very polite way of saying "basic Goodyear", and the last is a horror. Still, pretty much standard Loake prices (I'm guessing that's the maker?), so each to his own.

    The last he's used for the balmoral boots looks a lot nicer - I like those quite a lot. I fear he told the factory to make the spectators on "the same last as the boot" and they took it from the utilitarian engineer instead of the slick balmoral [​IMG]
     
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  4. Testudo_Aubreii

    Testudo_Aubreii Senior member

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    Thank you, deadAngle and VRaivio! I guess I'll call the pattern a "ball strap" then. Having a word to attach to the concept definitely helps.

    Has anyone ever seen a ball strap with no toecap? I seem to recall that I did once, but my memory is shaky on that score.

    Here are some more captoed ball straps in spectator makeup, including some more Gladiators:
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    Stole ^ that one from the Shoe Aristocat blog: Gladiator in Shark and Kudu hide.

    This last was an Italian special for Paul Stuart, I think:
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    For those who don't know, knucks also has some handsome ball strap boots in the Balmoral Boot thread.

    edited for photo attribution
     
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  5. mimo

    mimo Senior member

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    ^^ The balmoral boots on the "SJC" site are very appealing, and the tarsal strap shape is quite original. Suits the last very well. I've not heard of this before, so thanks for the share. SF is a tough audience for any new vendor though.

    Re. your pics, the Paul Stuarts are nasty, but love those first two - what are the second ones? Suede and shark? Crazy. Good crazy.
     
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  6. Testudo_Aubreii

    Testudo_Aubreii Senior member

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    Mimo, it's a Gladiator in shark and kudu hide. I stole it from the Shoe AristoCat blog, now linked in the post. I agree the Paul Stuart is a bit odd. Is there a name for that pattern with a strap running along the middle of the quarters?
     
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  7. mimo

    mimo Senior member

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    Not that I know of, I suppose it's a cross between an Oxford and a Balmoral. But I don't like it. :)
     
  8. Papperskatt

    Papperskatt Well-Known Member

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    This is the only one that I know of after more than a year of research in the matter, so I'm guessing that it's the one that you are thinking of.
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  9. Testudo_Aubreii

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    Wow! Thanks, Papper. I think the cap-less ball strap pattern was more frequently used on women's models than men's. That would explain why it's so rare.
     
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  10. isshinryu101

    isshinryu101 Senior member

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    THE last is terrible. something to appeal to the vintage workwear crowd. what a narrow market.
     
  11. knucks

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    The SJC Spectators sold out. Maybe they'll be up on Kickstarter later but for a higher cost?
     
  12. mimo

    mimo Senior member

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    That's what they said. I tried to register on their forum actually but not accepted. Pity - I like their boots quite a lot.
     
  13. knucks

    knucks Senior member

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    Not accepted to register?
     
  14. meister

    meister Senior member

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    Cross posted

    Ventilated 1940 spectators

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  15. mimo

    mimo Senior member

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    That's the spirit! I do like an adelaide, and that little spade welt is cool.
     
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  16. isshinryu101

    isshinryu101 Senior member

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    yep!
     
  17. Testudo_Aubreii

    Testudo_Aubreii Senior member

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    Continuing with the ball strap theme, here's some calf and suede numbers:

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  18. meister

    meister Senior member

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    Fabulous tarsal specs

    Here are some 1950s suede ones I wore on Friday to work.


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  19. mimo

    mimo Senior member

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    I'm sorry if this comes across as rude, but it's friendly advice really: you've mentioned these shoes several times in the last few days, had a response, and made no other contribution or comment on the thread. You've also just edited this post to include a picture - of the shoes you've already posted, and some others that aren't relevant to this thread.

    There's a system for selling stuff here: put a simple link in your signature, or become an affiliate vendor or advertiser. But spamming threads will be unpopular, and I'm sure you've got a lot more interesting to say than this.

    P.S. I do like the boots though. All of them, actually.
     
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  20. isshinryu101

    isshinryu101 Senior member

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    Excellent. Could you please add some additional photos, as well as maker and details. Thanks!
     

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