Soporific Tie Pr0n

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  1. apropos

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    Looks like RLPL is trying to bring the folded edge tie back into vogue. [​IMG]

    The edge is hand-stitched. A fold is probably more suited for a chunky material like that
     
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    Oh, no questions about that - it had better damned well be hand-stitched if they are asking the prices that RLPL ties go for... [​IMG] There was a brown solid silk above your post with the same edge treatment as well. I guess it's all made in the same factory, so it would make sense that there be the same edge treatment. It's a swell tie. Is it a dark olive green & grey herringbone?
     
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    Oh, no questions about that - it had better damned well be hand-stitched if they are asking the prices that RLPL ties go for... [​IMG] There was a brown solid silk above your post with the same edge treatment as well. I guess it's all made in the same factory, so it would make sense that there be the same edge treatment. It's a swell tie. Is it a dark olive green & grey herringbone?
    Nah, just straight gray (and black). I got some weird lighting in the 2nd pic that tinged the picture olive. Needs a photoshop color correction.
     
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    To me, the type of weave of a solid silk tie doesn't determine seasonality, but the colour and pattern might. And I don't mean that dark ties are more FW even though light ties probably are more SS. For instance, the Italien Background seems good year round. And I think the sand coloured linen suit Spoo recently wore would have been great with a white shirt and a black silk knit tie.

    So for silk ties (knits, twills, grenadines, etc) I'd say that their seasonality for a great deal comes down to the combining. Your dark brown garza fina will be FW'ish with a charcoal suit or a dark navy one, but I think it will be fine for SS with your lighter blue cotton suit.

    Manton, it would be great to hear where you agree/disagree on the above.

    (Btw NOBD, when you first asked about this I didn't get that it was for a wedding. Now, I know that you have the same preferences for solid soporific ties that I do, but I feel that this would have been a great opportunity to pick up a Wedding Tie. At the moment this is the one I have in mind for that.)


    I agree with this. A dark navy or black grenadine IMO goes as well with a tan linen suit as it does a grey flannel number.

    By the above you are basically saying that ties aren't seasonal at all and only how they are combined defines whether or not they are seasonally appropriate. I don't agree with this. Of course there are staples which can look good in either a summery or wintery outfit (such as a solid navy tie or a black knit one) but even within these domains there is room for variance. A solid navy tie can look good with a cream coloured linen suit, you say. I say, a solid navy hopsack tie will look excellent with it while a solid navy cashmere tie won't. Both are the same colour and, what's more, both are matte weaves and yet only one of them will look appropriate. The same holds true for knit ties in my opinion: Wool knit is fuzzier and thus better reserved for wintery outfits, while cotton knit looks best next to a summery suit. Silk knit along with grenadines and a few other weaves falls in a kind of neutral category for me, like mid grey medium-weight trousers, a light blue shirt or tobacco coloured suede shoes: They go with just about anything.
     
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    SG - if that was directed at me, I was talking about grenadines, which I agree are an all-season option.
     
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    By the above you are basically saying that ties aren't seasonal at all and only how they are combined defines whether or not they are seasonally appropriate.
    Not what I was trying to say:
    To me, the type of weave of a solid silk tie doesn't determine seasonality, but the colour and pattern might.
    My point was that while fabrics other than silk (cotton/linen/wool/cashmere) can definitely be seasonal (as stated by Manton: 'wool and cashmere in fall/winter and lots of linen/cotton in spring/summer' - I for the most part don't believe you can put a season on a silk (knit, grenadine, twill, etc) tie. All this was as a reply to NOBD's question about the seasonality of a silk grenadine tie...

    Do you disagree?
     
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    Thanks, I hope I can prevent those.

    Seconding that. I got one like my second day wearing my Panta navy grenadine. Really ruined my day. I was insanely careful too. Just super fragile or something, I dunno.. I would think the larger weave is less fragile though. anyone able to weigh in?
     
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    Not what I was trying to say:

    My point was that while fabrics other than silk (cotton/linen/wool/cashmere) can definitely be seasonal (as stated by Manton: 'wool and cashmere in fall/winter and lots of linen/cotton in spring/summer' - I for the most part don't believe you can put a season on a silk (knit, grenadine, twill, etc) tie. All this was as a reply to NOBD's question about the seasonality of a silk grenadine tie...

    Do you disagree?


    SG - if that was directed at me, I was talking about grenadines, which I agree are an all-season option.
    I can agree with this. Looks like I misread two posts in a row. [​IMG]
     
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    I think of silk shantung as a summer fabric but otherwise consider silk year-round.
     
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    Thanks all for the feedback.
     
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    I missed it.....why is Vox's post gone?? I want to see his collection! [​IMG]
     
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    Garza ties with a selvedge by Ring Jacket. It is OEM'ed by Seteria Bianchi, which Ring argues is better than Fermo Fossati (silk products division of Carlo Riva). [​IMG]
     

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