Some shirt statistics

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  1. BjornH

    BjornH Senior member

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    Thought I might share this with you.

    I did a little measuring of my shirts to bring a little hard data into the discussion. Because of the scale, I did not chart the armhole measurements but Yarmouth was a clear winner.

    It no wonder I prefer Jantzen to most RTW.

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    Very nice, Bjorn. Thanks.
     


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    Love this chart. Would like to have a similar one for 14 1/2 shirts [​IMG] It is usefull to try to understand what brand matches me better [​IMG]
     


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    What about H&K and H&H ?
     


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    I would actually like to see this as well, if you have the resources.
     


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    There is no H&H in my closet but I took out some more that might be of interest to you. I've also added an armhole*2 measurement to the chart.

    One thing to keep in mind is that the English shirts are all bought at Jermyn street so the versions across the pond might be different.

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    One more thing - If somebody is willing to send me the measurements of the more exotic Italian shirts (Barba, Borelli, Fray, Kiton, Lorenzini etc.) I'll add them to the chart.

    I have measured from/to the outer edges of the seams and the armhole measurement is straight across. I do not try to follow the curve.

    I took a lot of other measurements (cuff, placket with, yoke height, shoulders etc.) but did not include them.

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    The previous Oxford Shirt thread is here I find the Armani Coll and the Thomas Pink stats very strange that the Waist is wider than the Chest. BB which I think by all accounts is huge doesnt even measure that way. JJF
     


  9. BjornH

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    Out with the tape measure again...

    I re-measured the AC and TP shirts and managed to find an extra cm in the chest of the AC. After that, the difference is 0,5cm that is well within my error limits. Also, I measure from the outside of the seams. The seams terminating the chest measurement are big ones under the armpit so they can add a cm to the measurement. In these cases, the intention is probably to make a straight fit.

    I also rechecked the BB shirt (an easy iron made in Malaysia) and took out another. This time a white one, made in USA with semi-spread collar. Both of them are 3-4 years old. That one was around 1 cm wider but had 2 cm narrower shoulders (48 v.s 50). This is the reason I didn't include any brands that oursource their shirts - you get different measurements depending on style and vintage. This goes for Zegna, Boss, Canali and perhaps BB.

    You can have the shoulder measurements too. They are taken straight along the bottom of the yoke, for simplicity. This is ok in most cases but can give misleading numbers for shirts with very high yokes. Armani and Joop. have 11 and 10cm yokes opposed to 6-7cm on the rest. I should add that these are the nubers that I trust the least. I'll have to measure the shoulders again when I've found a good metric.

    Jantzen\t17 1/8
    T&A\t17 4/8
    Zegna NC\t17 4/8
    Armani Coll\t18 1/8
    T.M. Lewin\t17 7/8
    RL - Philip\t18 1/8
    Joop.\t18 1/8
    BB\t19 5/8
    Thomas Pink\t18
    RL-Yarmouth\t20 7/8
    BB2\t18 7/8

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