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Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by discostu004, Apr 26, 2005.

  1. discostu004

    discostu004 Senior member Affiliate Vendor

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    ok, i already bought these two pair: pair 1 pair 2 and was kinda wanting these: pair 3 pair 4 what makes the last 2 pair retail at 595 and the first two at signif lower, and also are the two lace-ups basically the same and am i just wanting 2 of basically the same thing?
     
  2. johnnynorman3

    johnnynorman3 Senior member

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    Better quality suede, better construction (Goodyear as opposed to rapid Blake for the Salterbeck).
     
  3. faustian bargain

    faustian bargain Senior member

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    pair 3 is 'benchmade in england'. i guess that makes a difference. pair 4 looks cool and has a leather sole, but i wouldn't pay $600 for anything with velcro on it.
     
  4. retronotmetro

    retronotmetro Senior member

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    Wow, the Salterbeck is a dead ringer for the C&J Dainite-soled chukka models, other than the "Polo" embossed where the Dainite logo goes. From the angle that Grapevinehill shot those pics, it's ambiguous whether that's a molded faux channel or if there are stitches in there, so I wouldn't want to guess whether those are Goodyear welted or not without seeing the shoes IRL. If those aren't really C&Js, then they've sure done a fine job of knocking them off.
     
  5. LA Guy

    LA Guy Opposite Santa Staff Member Admin Moderator

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    The last pair, the Aviemore, is an amazing looking boot. If you are getting these to wear with your new jeans, they'll look phenomenal.
     
  6. NoVaguy

    NoVaguy Senior member

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    I just won #3, and hopefully should get them tomorrow, so I'll let you know what I think then.

    That being said, #1 and #3 completely overlap in terms of when you would wear them. Except that #1 is probably made in Italy and #3 should be made by Crockett and Jones, assuming the benchmade in England is not a typo. If you already have #1, and like it, no point in getting #3 unless you prefer to wear suede chukkas frequently.

    #2 and #4 substantially overlap. Also no point in having both.

    I don't think #4 is a C&J boot, but I could be wrong.
     
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    shoreman1782 Senior member

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    The salterbeck boots are made in Italy, according to the photo on bluefly. They look damn good, let us know how they turn out.
     
  8. retronotmetro

    retronotmetro Senior member

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    I'd forgotten that I'd seen those on Bluefly before. They look a lot more C&J-like when you see the soles in the Grapevinehill pics.
     
  9. profjmb

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    I'm curious when people think that it is "acceptable" to wear this color of suede boot. Fall and winter, certainly. But spring and summer? (I have a nice pair I'd like to wear then but am hesitant.)
     
  10. guitone

    guitone Well-Known Member

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    I never wear boots in the Summer, Fall and Winter are good, early Spring, maybe...waterproof them as well....

    Nice goots btw.
     
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    alchimiste Senior member

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    What the difference between rapid blake and regular blake? Or is rapid blake just another name for blake?
     
  12. Parker

    Parker Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Go for Boot 4. Those are great. They'll look great with jeans.
    You can wear Boot 2 when you're feeling less rugged.
     
  13. discostu004

    discostu004 Senior member Affiliate Vendor

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    i assume nobody's gonna sneak in and bid against me (angry face)
     
  14. faustian bargain

    faustian bargain Senior member

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    not when you do (angry face) they're not. [​IMG]
     
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    spatten Senior member

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    Any thoughts on the maker of pair number 4?
     
  16. dah328

    dah328 Senior member

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    They're not the same. Â See Rider's post on the construction of Marteganis which are blake/rapid. dan
     
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    [​IMG] Link fixed...
     
  18. alchimiste

    alchimiste Senior member

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    1. Thanks.

    2. So rapid Blake is one layer of leather that's Blake plus a second layer that's "rapid stitched". How is the outsole stitched in the case of pure Blake? Doesn't the rapid Blake method waterproof the sole compared to Blake?

    Mathieu
     
  19. NoVaguy

    NoVaguy Senior member

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    Got #3 today.  It's ok but not great.  Worth more than what I paid, but not worth $595 (then again, most of the Polo C&J's appear to be about 20 to 30% overpriced at retail compared to what they would be without the polo badge).  

    The sole, btw, is incredibly stiff.  stiff like hard rubber cleats (the really hard ones i used in soccer).  these aren't soft rubber soles like AE's vibram gumlite soles.
     

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