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Solid black tie with navy or charcoal pinstripe suits?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by kdsvs, May 23, 2006.

  1. kdsvs

    kdsvs Active Member

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    I just got a solid black tie and it doesn't seem as versatile as I expected. All my suits are navy or grey/charcoal pinstripe. The problem is, to my eye, the black tie doesn't really work with any of these suits...it seems to require either a black suit or light-coloured suit. Any thoughts?
     
  2. kronik

    kronik Senior member

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    I just got a solid black tie and it doesn't seem as versatile as I expected. All my suits are navy or grey/charcoal pinstripe. The problem is, to my eye, the black tie doesn't really work with any of these suits...it seems to require either a black suit or light-coloured suit. Any thoughts?

    I'd say the charcoal moreso than the navy, but neither, really.
     
  3. dressed2kill

    dressed2kill Senior member

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    I think it doesn't work because it challenges colors. Maybe if you got a black tie with blue colors two or could find a way to bring some of the colors from the tie into your suit meaning new tie it would work. As for the charcoal suit I think a solid black would work fine. Look Kdvs first we were fighting now were helping each other out.[​IMG]
     
  4. whoopee

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    What kind of shirt are you wearing? Navy solid suit, black textured tie, and white broadcloth shirt is an amazing look, in part because of the no-no of blue-black. It recalls the midnight blue-black formalwear duo and looks very sophisticated.
     
  5. Alter

    Alter Senior member

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    I just got a solid black tie and it doesn't seem as versatile as I expected. All my suits are navy or grey/charcoal pinstripe. The problem is, to my eye, the black tie doesn't really work with any of these suits...it seems to require either a black suit or light-coloured suit. Any thoughts?

    Solid black is tough with anything but a black suit (I know, i know- don't start THAT again!) and brings to mind a funeral tie. I got a black DKNY seven-fold a few years ago as a present. I have never worn it- the only funeral I have been to recently was out of town, and I forgot to bring the tie.
     
  6. AlanC

    AlanC Senior member

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    Conventional wisdom on the board has been that a solid black tie, particularly a black grenadine, will go with just about anything.
     
  7. bch

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    Conventional wisdom on the board has been that a solid black tie, particularly a black grenadine, will go with just about anything.

    Connery/Bond pulled this look off regularly.
     
  8. dressed2kill

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    Connery/Bond pulled this look off regularly.

    Thats funny I was thinking the same thing(tie was thin). He also had the TV fold pocket square with plain white shirt.
     
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    Thats funny I was thinking the same thing(tie was thin). He also had the TV fold pocket square with plain white shirt.

    And he looked cool as hell with that hat in Dr. No.
     
  10. Edward Appleby

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    Conventional wisdom on the board has been that a solid black tie, particularly a black grenadine, will go with just about anything.
    Exactly. Texture is the key though- I really hate satin finish black long ties.
     
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    Exactly. Texture is the key though- I really hate satin finish black long ties.
    I agree. I'm not a fan of satin ties at all, really.
     
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    I agree. I'm not a fan of satin ties at all, really.
    I don't mind a polka dot here and there, but solid satin ties are waaaay too Donald for me.
     
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    White, cream, light grey, pink, maybe yellow (hm), with or without basic stripes (black/white). This is one combo in which horizontal stripes might work. See Sartorialist's pic of Robert Burke from a few months back. Change the tie to a black grenadine. With the white-black striped and contrast collar/cuff shirt, dark grey chalkstripe, it looks great. Also, when you tone down the patterns and colours, fit, cut and quality become even more apparent and important. There's no razzle dazzle to steal the show and disguise deficiencies.
     
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    This look is much easier to pull off with a textured tie, like a knit. Otherwise, the dark blue of the suit and the black of the tie resemble each other too much and it looks like a mistake.

    A navy blue suit and a black knit tie, white shirt, black shoes/belt/socks is just about infallible; almost everyone looks good in it. It may not be genius, but it works.
     
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    Change the tie to a black grenadine. With the white-black striped and contrast collar/cuff shirt, dark grey chalkstripe, it looks great. Also, when you tone down the patterns and colours, fit, cut and quality become even more apparent and important. There's no razzle dazzle to steal the show and disguise deficiencies.

    Great combination, IMO. Whenever I want to emphasize the cut and quality of my clothing, I do exactly this--wear minimal pattern and color.
     
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    It'll work if you're a secret service agent, at a funeral, or bassist for the Hives.
     
  18. kdsvs

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    I tried the (textured) black tie again with a solid white shirt and 1. charcoal beaded-stripe suit, 2. dark navy shadow-stripe suit. Both looked much better than before, when I was wearing a white shirt w/ thin blue stripes and a lighter navy suit. As long as there's no rule about pairing navy & black, I think the look is fine.

    Maybe it's just me, but I find that putting together 3 or more colours just doesn't look right. An exception would be with a colourful tie, but otherwise, 3 solid colours or a random colour accent just look weird. ie. the blue stripes on the aforementioned shirt ruined the look. Another example: blue blazer + blue shirt + grey trousers looks great, but looks off with a pink shirt. White shirt in the outfit is so-so. Anyone else agree?
     
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    Maybe it's just me, but I find that putting together 3 or more colours just doesn't look right. An exception would be with a colourful tie, but otherwise, 3 solid colours or a random colour accent just look weird. ie. the blue stripes on the aforementioned shirt ruined the look. Another example: blue blazer + blue shirt + grey trousers looks great, but looks off with a pink shirt. White shirt in the outfit is so-so. Anyone else agree?


    Nope. I frequently wear blue blazer + charcoal or gray trousers + pink shirt. Usually my tie and/or pocket square has a blue base with some pink to tie everything together. I would also not rule out a white shirt, though I haven't done it because it seems, well, boring. I _have_ worn a shirt with a white base and gray/black checks.
     
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    The blue blazer and the gray trousers really don't have colors, but are neutrals--a blank canvas you can play with.
     

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