Great to see you here, J. And great post. Sometimes, I wonder too what people are arguing about since everyone here believes that, all things being equal, HW<GW. In light of your post, I think the point of contention arises at the line between practicality and excellence, quality and quantity. Different people draw the line differently. Here the faultline is between the two groups at the highest levels: bespoke HW and high end GW. Before DW, the faultline was a little lower: between high end GW and low/mid GW (How much better is EG/Lobb vs Alden/AE, really?). Lowering the faultline, we have the common debate between noobs with their corrected grain, entirely glued rubber soles vs. the GW proponents. Such noobs can be high end (Prada) and middle (Ecco) and low (Payless). The question is still, Do the differences between my shoes and the ones you recommend really matter? Some will say yes, others will say no. And the reasons for rejection of the “higher calling” will vary. As you say, some prefer quantity. Some are unable or unwilling to pay more than a certain amount. Some do not think the incremental differences are important, or at least not as important as those who say they are. Most of SF thinks one reason GW < “glue jobs” is that they can be resoled and they last 30+ years. Others say corrected grain and glued rubber soles can last as long as full grain and GW. We all draw our line somewhere. DW has made it clear that he doesn’t think all people must buy bespoke HW shoes at all times. But he isn’t speaking to all people. He’s addressing SF, where many have the resources to buy bespoke. It seems to me as though he believes that those who can do so but choose to buy GW are making a choice similar to, but at a higher level than, those who can afford a few pairs of full-grain GW shoes but choose to buy corrected grain, glued shoes, be they Payless or Prada.